pro tip: there is none maybe megadeth
Name a better heavy metal band and why
I'd start with Annihilator or Overkill. Faster, meaner, possibly more complex. Alice in Chains should get a mention, they are a new wave contender.
Why is there even any gay distinction between "heavy" metal and metal, and "hair" metal and "glam" metal? It's all the same thing anyway.
instrumentation
technique
vocal style
lyricism
song structure
aesthetics and mental imagery
just to name a few differences
why is this even a question
could you suggest some songs that show range in their music so i could listen?
example : dreamer deciever
victim of changes
beyond the realms of death
nostradamus
one shot at glory
Iron Maiden and Venom, Maiden for their professionalism, flying the flag for Metal internationally in a way Priest couldn't quite take on. And their sheer range of subject matter all with a really good art direction. Venom, they could be the beginning and end of Metal desu senpai, lad m8.
I can't do Celtic Frost, someone else will have to. Mercyful Fate as well.
No sorry, I don't have access to a good discography do you're just as well searching on the internet.
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Because people who wrote magazines and the stupid fanboys are obsessed with labels and being all unique for belonging to a group of people all sounding the same. Fuck
There are none. Megadeth was never my thing. I can admit they have good music but i never cared for them. Thyere certainly not as consistent as priest and i think rust in peace is one of if not the most overrated album in the history of metal. Never cared for it. Peace sells is their actual best. That one i can listen to it and be engaged
It's a question because all those things you list are insignificant, when compared with blues, or jazz, or folk. Metal to metal is not as different as metal to polka. Getting into hysterics about what constitutes "hair" metal versus "death" metal is gay in the extreme. It's bdsm studded repressed homosexuality. It's metal.
and now
repressed
Lol. Not for rob at least. Have you paid attention to the lyrics in sin after sin? Raw deal one of my all time favorite priest songs but that shit gay as fuck
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Venom
Just a shittier Motörhead
Celtic Frost
Just a shittier Venom
Mercyful Fate
Worst vocalist of any semi-big metal band from the 80s. And no, I don't give a shit about his "spooky" lyrics, I'm not twelve anymore. I also can't hear what the fuck he's saying when he singing in his weak ass falsetto voice.
tell that to an electronic music nerd
CF are the thinking man's Venom
>Venom
Just a shittier Motörhead
There weren't much more to it than that.
I'll have to take your word for it since I could hear a single word when I listened to To Mega Therion two months ago.
If anything, then, you would argue Metal bands with more technicality than Venom were the overblown pomposity of a cheap bauble and to have taken it any further than Venom did was sheer madness. And not to be commended at all.
Why is there even any gay distinction between "heavy" metal and metal
The answer to your question is that "heavy metal" is very specific: it's the iron maidens, grim reapers, priests, etc.
Simply "metal" is everything else: it means black, death, grind, etc.
You'd think it'd be the other way around because all those genres are indeed heavier than "heavy metal," but that's just not how it is.
Venom are like Twisted Sister, I can't buy that they believe in what they do
Venom did, there's no doubt about that. I don't know where they went as a legacy act but I wouldn't have doubted their sincerity for a minute.
Dude i loved venom when i just discovered them. And then they only have like 4 good albums. Chronos sucks. His fault the band went nowhere. Had ghey separated after black metal they would have been legendary. But prime evil and resurrection are good. And i liked at war with satan, so what? I like cheesiness. Fuck i actually love mantas solo album winds of change. Dont really care for his industrial shit, dryll, mpire of evil. I liked seeing them as venom inc playing all the clasics
But who the fuck would say theyre better than priest. Maybe chronos would, fucking dickhead
Jeff dunn is pretty chill and not an ebil edgelord who takes himself dead serious like that clown thomas lant. Just gotta listen to what they did after they split. You can see mantas was the talent driving the band and cronos a talentless hack with an ego bigger than his forehead
Btw, bathory is my favorite band and if i had to, i choose them over priest. Priest only wins on quantity and even then its not fair
Motorhead is another one, both quality and quantity. I think it beats all
But theyre rock and roll and anyone saying otherwise is a fucking faggot. Muh speed metal fuck off. Go lose your virginity
Explain it to me like I'm not familiar with your special backpocket handkerchief colour guide. As someone totally new to rock, how could I tell the difference between Iron Maiden and Poison?
how could I tell the difference between Iron Maiden and Poison?
Not that anon, but just listen to their 5 most popular songs? It's not that hard to hear the difference, unless you're tone deaf perhaps, but why would you listen to music if that's the case.
Motörhead, not metal, Rock and Roll, per Lemmy.
Priest though, Metal Gods, they're metal though, aren't they?
I have listened, and like I was saying, I don't hear the difference. As I asked in the post you replied to, perhaps you could explain the differences, unless you're a poseur/fake fairweather fan, then I wouldn't expect you to be able to talk about your musical tastes competently.
Priest, if they can clear Venom then they've got a clearer run, until you say Saxon, maybe. Which I think Priest would probably win, actually. Even Sabbath, I think Priest were more Metal.
1. The lyrics. Iron Maiden write stories, Poison write about partying, girls and relationships.
2. Poison's music is based in blues. Iron Maiden's is not. They sound more metallic, colder if you will.
3. Iron Maiden uses twin guitars, a popular sound in heavy metal. Poison does not.
4. Iron Maiden goes for a more epic sound. Poison is more grounded.
Scorpions, rock or metal? Skid Row, rock, yeah?
You guys seriously think all metal is the same? Lmao. If you can’t tell death metal from glam, you should call every game mario. Death metal? Drop C or B tuning, diminished and chromatic riffs, tremolo picking, sweep arpeggios, and blast beats cannibal Corpse isn’t using the same scales or rhythms as plini, trust me. Black metal? E or D standard, harmonic minor and dissonant intervals, tremolo picking, shrieked vocals, and a wall of reverb for that “recorded in a crypt” vibe. Thrash? E or Eb standard, power chords, bluesy runs, alternate picking, and galloping rhythms at 200 BPM. Slayer and Metallica aren’t playing slow, doomy riffs. Doom metal? Drop B or C, minor 7ths, slow bends, sustain forever, and tempos that make a glacier look fast. glam (hair) metal? E or Eb standard, major chords, pentatonic scales, string bends, harmonized leads, and mid-tempo grooves. the fucking hairspray is heavier than the riffsm these technical differences-tuning, chords, picking, rhythm are why genres exist. If you can’t hear them maybe stick to the radio. Metal’s diversity is real, and if you call everything “just metal” you never touched an actual woman uor a guitar in your life. I agree there is nuance to everything and they overlap but everything is not just "metal" and by your logic the Beatles is metal.
Accept
Metal to metal is not as different as metal to polka.
Sometimes it is.
Metal dispenses with the honky tonk and boogie woogie. And it's more a fantasy world than street hustling and pimping.
Im OP and I posted this because of these fucking plebtards ruining my thread, i don't even know how to use fucking 4channel to get my point across. thank you to the people actually contributing, maiden, venom are good contenders. maiden being a very serious contender with the amount of good shit they consistently put out. i will look into venom more.
. i will look into venom more.
Don't, it's either Welcome to Hell wins, or that's it, really. That is an opinion.
hard to believe these jewish doughboys made Painkiller
Heavy Metal and Glam Metal aren't metal.