/classical/

Franck edition
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This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

How do I get into classical?

This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
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were the allegations true?

Ravel

I WILL NOT BE SEATED NEXT TO THIS EMISSARY OF SATAN

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Define edition
Define allegations
Define emissary

Tbh I find Ravel extremely boring, his piano concerto is just full of weird, emotionally flat melodies. No-no for me.

Lettberg and Dostoievsky

Anyone else a Brandon Acker fan?

Here's his Gymnopedie No. 1 transcription:

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That's cause you're an emotionally flat autist

Wagner and Tolstoi

guitar tranny has resorted to replying to herself

sheesh you're lonely

What about guitar and piano?

What, just because 2 people like guitar interpretations doesn't mean they're the same, retard. I'm more of a piano guy anyway
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It's clear you whelps won't cease your disrespect towards Scriabin so you may as know the score, not that'd you understand it... Heh, maybe it'll awaken something buried in the one brain cell you primitive dogs share...

10,000 years ago, when Earth was embosomed in the clouds of Saturn and Hyperborea flourished at the North Pole, Aryan mystics practiced arts to channel the powers of God-Realization. Five seals of power were consecrated, corresponding to the four elements, while the fifth... that was the Void. Texts of ancient Aryan cultures depict this with exoteric gloss. But it wasn't until Europeans rediscovered the Upanishads that the truth was known... hmph, at least to a select few, beginning with Schopenhauer...

Scriabin was the first to reawaken his vril. His sorcery took the form of what we ignorant moderns call "musick". In his last five "sonata" spells, he encoded magick to control reality in each piece. Pretty crazy, yeah? I don't expect common fools to "get it" anymore than I would the so-called "Maria Lettberg" (probably an alias... a saboteur sent to discredit the Brotherhood).

That's where I come in...I was reincarnated with the demon left hand that Scriabin wielded. Pay attention, whelp, because these are secret techniques of power concealed by the last five sonatas. My left hand speaks forth these words:

Sonata No. 6

Reality Cavern: Gaia Crystallization, 1st Emergence Technique, Gravitation Hand

Sonata No. 7

Unbound Mare: Flow of Sarasvati, 2nd Emergence Technique, Absorption Hand

Sonata No. 8 (dangerous to Lettberg, an Earth Elemental, which is why that bitch ruined it so thoroughly, heh)

Meteoric Aureole: Undiscovered Atmosphere, 3rd Emergence Technique, Zephyr Hand

Sonata No. 9

Almighty Conflagration: Umbral Incinerator, 4th Emergence Technique, Agni Hand

Sonata No. 10

Crystalline Light Absorption: Existence Totality, 5th Emergence Technique, Ruination Hand

Dogs like you should be grateful I deign to reveal such secrets... Disappear!

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Yes. Some of these current active posters have totally run amok and are shitting the place up.

t.

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What's the actual difference between a prelude and a toccata? While we're at it Caprice and Bagatelle?

Markevitch
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Oh no! Classical music is being discussed in the classical thread

So it has come to this. Truly it is dismal that /classical/ clings even today to nonentities. Haydn and Mozart? Pop for noblemen. Beethoven? Kitsch for Jacobins. Schubert? The wojak composer who today would court his audience on Anon Babble. Wagner? He is the MCU of the 19th century. Brahms? You may as well put on a Disney OST and host a hootenanny at your trailer park for all it will edify you. With his satirical La Valse, Ravel humiliated the whole soi-disant "classical tradition" formed since the upstarts of the eighteenth century took the luminous glory of the baroque and made it into a festival of FARTS (see the second movement of Haydn 93 if you dare defile your ear... your good taste may not recover).

Simplicity, vulgarity, poopy parpy bassoon sounds, dippy whistling fagflutes, and swoony superficial strings so dizzied the lethargic libidos of both the degenerated aristocrats and the rising tide of dull-minded common stock that a century was not sufficient to exhaust their ignorant hunger for this tripe. And yet, even today, when no barrier prevents the worthy pilgrim from seeing what dwarves are those composers, compared to their baroque predecessors and to the modernists who finally put a plug in those tooty little poots, still /classical/ concedes to the nonentities.

The unique characteristic of this writer's soul that he never recognized the validity of the music designated as Classical and Romantic even as a child. Puzzlement and concern were his response to the claims of journalists that this was the acme of art music. Yet when I held in my ear the rich and lofty counterpoint of Bach or soaked in the profound and advanced sonorities of Ravel, Debussy, and Scriabin, my heart was set to rest at the cost of a mind put to flame by the injustice of the situation. Were it not for this injustice, I would take no notice of those composers who are beneath the dignity of consideration for any truly musical person.

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Classical music is being discussed

is it, though

look at pianist's discography

they've recorded all of Brahms' music for piano except for the solo pieces

wtf what kind of madman would do this. They refuse to play Brahms without a partner or ensemble or something?

At times like these I think of the Master of Music and Poetry in whose name this general was consecrated. Wagner would not have allowed his discord kittens to grow so unruly. With his integral and organic conception of the artwork he would, while paying the respect due to those composers out of whose genius was formed these pristine instruments of musical understanding, recognize these matters as beneath the dignity of the true artist for whom they are but tools of his unified expression. Come, let us embrace one another as sisters and retreat to the seraglio to repose in profound meditation upon the works of the Master.

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a Disney OST and host a hootenanny at your trailer park

Not that there's anything wrong with that

Scriabin my beloved

Bach

Ugh you ruined it anon

okay so, i'm not sure if anyone else will understand this but for me, the key to my transition was a weird combination of wagnerian harmony and nietzsche. let me explain.

so first off, i've always been drawn to classical music, and wagner's operas in particular. there's something about the way the music builds and swells and crashes that just resonates with me on a deep level. i used to listen to the overture to "tristan und isolde" on repeat for hours at a time, and it always made me feel like i was on the brink of something monumental.

and then, i started reading nietzsche. his ideas about the will to power, about overcoming oneself, about creating oneself - they all spoke to me in a way that i couldn't quite explain. it was like he was describing a way of being that i had always been striving towards, but could never quite put into words.

and then, one day, it all just clicked for me. i realized that if i was going to transition, if i was going to become the person i had always known i was meant to be, i would need to harness that same will to power that nietzsche talked about. i would need to overcome my fears and doubts and insecurities, and create the version of myself that i wanted to be.

it wasn't easy, of course. there were a lot of obstacles and setbacks along the way. but every time i felt like giving up, i would put on some wagner and let the music remind me of the power that i had within me. and every time i needed a philosophical boost, i would turn to nietzsche and let his words inspire me to keep going.

and now, here i am, fully transitioned and living my best life. i still listen to wagner and read nietzsche, and they still give me that same sense of power and inspiration that they always have. i don't know if everyone will find the same kind of motivation in these things that i did, but for me, they were the keys to realizing the sufficiency of will necessary to self-overcome and transition.

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Eric Le Sage's complete Schumann solo piano music set. 13 hours! I don't know about anyone else here but I'm always on the lookout for more performances of Schumann's solo piano music, as there's actually less of certain pieces than one might think and hope (eg the piano sonatas, the Symphonic Etudes, Davidsbündlertänze, Kreisleriana, Gesänge der Frühe für Klavier), so here's a full set to try. hope it's good!

not gonna link to the start of every piece, so here's the start of one of my favorites, the Piano Sonata No. 2 in G minor, op. 22
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good place as any to decide if you wanna try the rest.

Wagner dilates his soul with a music of prolonged modulations.

very pretty.

She's got big tits and dick sucking lips but pretty is a stretch

The Third Symphony is Mahler’s hymn to the natural world and his longest work. It was largely composed in the summer of 1895 after an exhausting and troubling period that pitched him into feverish creative activity. Bruno Walter visited him at that time and as Mahler met him off the ferry Walter looked up at the spectacular alpine vistas around him only to be told: "No use looking up there, that’s all been composed by me." Mahler was inspired by the grandeur around him at the very deepest level of feeling and also by visions of Pan and Dionysus. In fact by a sense of every natural creative force in the universe infusing him into "one great hymn to the glory of every aspect of creation", or, as Deryck Cooke put it: "a concept of existence in its totality."

To deliver a convincing performance of the Third I believe the conductor must do two things before anything else. Firstly, in spite of the fact that the work falls into Mahler's "anthologising" strand, along with Das Klagende Lied, the Second and Eighth Symphonies, the overriding structural imperative linking the six movements must be a pattern of ascending steps based loosely on the evolutionary ladder within broadly-based Pantheistic cosmology. In these terms the six movements are:

1] Inorganic nature summoned into life by Pan, characterised as summer after winter

2] Plant and vegetable life

3] Animal life

4] Human life represented as spiritual darkness

5] Heavenly life represented as childish innocence which, when combined with 5, brings

6] God expressed as, and through, Love.

Mahler’s original titles for these movements were:

1] "Summer Marches in"

2] "What the Meadow Flowers tell me

3] "What the Creatures of the Forest Tell Me"

4] "What Night Tells Me"

5] "What the Morning Bells Tell Me"

6] "What God Tells Me"

Mahler's third symphony is somehow underrated.

ULTRA BASED

thank you coomers

Wagner dilates

as do wagneriennes

classical music is monotheism derangement and homosexuality

based?

professional makeup, professional lighting and professional photography

tell me you never leave the internet without telling me
honestly? kinda

Lord Scriabin raped your mind

:3

What the fuck are you talking about

listen to Vers la flamme

realize it’s the musical equivalent of ego death on estrogen

Scriabin knew
he saw through the veil
he wrote music for the moment you realize gender is just another melody in the infinite symphony of the Self as God

>monotheism

Saar

Only cowards delete their posts

2025

still obsessed with trannies

shaking my head

Horowitz said it was about the heat death of the Universe or the sun exploding something like that, the guy was fucking nuts

Why? What's wrong with correcting a mistake? I think I misunderstood that post anyway, they were saying Monotheism derangement which perhaps would describe an Indian but it would incorrect to call them an Indian

You know nothing of Lord Scriabin, whelp

2025

not into trannies

Why do you choose to have bad taste, anon? Why are you afraid?

I haven't heard the solo set but I like the one he did for Schumann's chamber music with piano.

What's wrong with correcting a mistake?

You haven't killed yourself, so what mistake have you corrected, exactly?

Monotheism derangement [...] perhaps would describe an Indian

Wow.

I'll be sure to add and listen to that one too :) I'm feeling feverish today, so putting on a lovely thirteen hour Schumann set and spending the day in bed sounds comfy

Anon it's only Indians who use that term

thank you sister

I already posted the genuinely stupid gif

so WHY did you delete your post

Well it was wrong then and it's wrong now

Because he's retarded
case in point

Because I figured when they "monotheism derangement" they meant the poster deranged by monotheism-ie someone derranged by the existence of Christianity . Of course I could have been right the first time

Schicksalslied is considered to be one of Brahms's best choral works along with Ein deutsches Requiem. In fact, Josef Sittard argues in his book on Brahms, "Had Brahms never written anything but this one work, it would alone have sufficed to rank him with the best masters." The premiere performance of Schicksalslied was given on 18 October 1871 in Karlsruhe, under the direction of Hermann Levi.

Schicksalslied, which John Lawrence Erb posits is "perhaps the most widely loved of all of Brahms's compositions and the most perfect of his smaller choral works", is sometimes referred to as the "Little Requiem", as it shares many stylistic and compositional similarities with Brahms's most ambitious choral composition. The Romantic characteristics of Schicksalslied, however, give this piece a closer tie with the "Alto Rhapsody" than the Requiem. Whichever piece it most closely relates to, it is clear that Schicksalsied was the work of a master composer working at the height of his skill. John Alexander Fuller Maitland stated that in Schicksalslied, Brahms "set the pattern of the short choral-ballad, to which, in Nänie, Op. 82, and the Gesang der Parzen, Op. 89, Brahms subsequently returned". Likewise, Hadow praises the piece for "its technical beauties, its rounded symmetry of balance and charm of melody, and its marvelous cadences where chord melts into chord like colour into colour".

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/classical/ is an atheist general

Sisters I'm listening to this now and tearing up thinking about how gender is just a leitmotif in God’s horny dream

I could have been right

You will never be right about anything in your life except maybe by accident

what the fuck are you talking about

pretty self explanatory, post face

this but unironically

Just so we're clear:

Symphonies, Rêverie, Sonatas & Vers La Flamme: Ashkenazy
Piano Concerto: Postnikova+Rozhdestvensky
Op 54: Lokalenkov+Golovschin
Op 60: Argerich+Abbado
Symphonic Allegro: Moscow Philharmonic+Golovschin
2 Piano Fantaisie: Ponti+Leonardi
Scherzo & Andante for string orchestra: Hamburg Strings+Preyss-Bato
Everything else piano solo: Dmitri Alexeev

no sofronitsky

cringe

Sweetie you forgot the Lettberg again. It's time to get back to the disciplinary chamber.

unnecessary

Substandard.

Whelps like you must rely on "recordings" while I hear Lord Scriabin play himself though the mental path bored out by the powers of my demon left hand. We are not the same.

Everyone likes Beethoven then

Why are you like this, /classical/?

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YouTube Links and cirklejerks (minus the Stormfag shit) count as actual discussion

Wagner would not have allowed his discord kittens to grow so unruly.

do you people even say anything that makes sense anymore or did you just give up

circlejerk does not count as actual discussion, but "best recording of X?" posts do

I'd never seen your favorite little composer Vagner before who never sold much.

this is actual gibberish

They simply coping piece of dry

Just so we're clear:

his whole pianistic output played by me
his whole orchestral output directed by me

+the completed Mysterium revealed to me in a dream (I'm transcribing it)

scribbox :DDD

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Heh, not bad... maybe even a dog pound like this damn website has a few "exceptional" specimens who truly "get" the marvellous nightmare of Lord Scriabin... consider me interested.

Is it just me or are Shosta's violin concertos ugly?

Only reply if you like Shostakovich please, I really don't care otherwsie.

i bought a used violin to learn how to fiddle about a week ago after thinking about it for some time.
i've never held a bowed instrument in my life.
i found some good youtube resources and a simple song to work on, and after a week of practice, i hear myself getting better each day.
i'm having a blast, it's a fun and challenging instrument to play.
thank you for reading my blog

ps: i'm afraid to tell anyone i'm playing fiddle until i've been playing it for a couple months at least, but i don't know you people and wanted to share with someone

Can you play and record Mendelssohn's violin concerto main theme&post vocaroo? Just do it, since I read your blog I wanna hear anon's attempt

have fun, it's going to be hitting a lot of plateaus and tests of patience for you in the next years but worth it
t. 22 years in now starting as an adult and taught myself just a minimum of music theory, played in front of 1k people but not classical

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Amerimutt can't help himself: The Picture.

Thank you for your service!

the violin is older than your cunt
t.yuropoor