Name a better 2000s post-hardcore album. I'll wait

Fall Of Troy - Doppelganger

Gospel - The Moon Is A Dead World

Neither of these are better than Thursday

Kill Unwoundfags 2025. Unwoundfags death 2025. Kick an Unwoundfag 2025. Piss on Unwoundfags 2025. Unwoundfag death 2025.

I Brought You My Bullets :3

It's good but no

Just wanna make you, and everyone else who cares to know aware,

that "real post-hardcore" is a bullshit category.

Whether or not something really qualifies in a genre, is a bullshit discussion.

It's a dick measuring contest between "who knows their shit better."

Bet some of you guys remember that "real emo" meme.

It's making fun of people who think that's actually the right thing to talk about.

Genres change all the time.

They're shorthands. Conventions.

This shit hasn't existed forever.

Genres actually should be the way we grasp how it changes.

Thursday codifies a lot of the sounds in earlier, "rawer" post-hardcore.

It sounds cleaner, more glossy.

If you're calling it nu metal, it probably just means you don't have a good grasp of the historical evolution of either genre. :)

Also, Glassjaw is good too.

I mean, maybe not my cup of tea.

But Glassjaw and Thursday just sound different.

It sounds like you're collapsing all the music you don't actually get, into the same category, and shitting all over it to feel better about the fact you don't get it.

And it makes it hard to actually talk about the fucking music and what we like in it.

So, stop!

Hey, if you call him a faggot, he's probably just going to want to keep talking your ear off about how he knows better when he doesn't.

He's just gonna dig deeper.

So maybe don't.

Because he's fucking annoying as hell and I want him to stop too!

I agree on Gospel.

One of my favorites in the 2000s.

Fast and fun as hell!

Oh and by the way I love Unwound.

But I prefer their 90s shit.

Their earlier, "rawer" sound.

I appreciate Leaves Turn Inside You.

But not as much as I feel like I "should."

Tried to get into it in the past.

Could only really get into some of it.

I actually like Full Collapse better.

Because it's rawer, more kinetic.

You type like a faggot and your shits all retarded

Ok, guys.

Back to square one.

Doing this for you, not him.

Let me actually translate what that guy is writing to me.

"Dumb it up," so people who are even a little smarter than he is can actually figure out what's going on in his head when he's writing it:

"These words are way too big. I'm worried they're gonna fuck me in the ass. The things that those words are about have to be bad then. That makes this dude gay. Better call him gay. Also, better call him retarded.

Wait, he's not retarded. He's actually smarter than me. So, uh, better call his shit retarded instead."

My shit's not any more retarded than anyone else's shit.

Because shit can't be retarded.

This guy, calling my shit retarded,

makes him probably more retarded than even the other retards who call everyone a "faggot" the moment they remember no one taught them how to read right.

So, this guy's what we'd call a "latent homosexual."

Hey ho hey

Post-hardcore peaked with Downtown Battle Mountain.

Relationship of Command >>>

Going to have to relisten to that today.

Thanks!

Fall of Troy - Doppelganger

why did so much good music come out of new jersey?

The emo and post hardcore scene in that era is insane. Everything happening in Long Island the time too. We didn't know how good we had it.

The fucking lyrics to Invalid Litter Dept,

might be some of my favorite song lyrics ever.

Invalid Litter Dept maybe top 10 post-hardcore songs period.

How are those some of your favorite lyrics? It's random dumbass gibberish like all of their other songs.

Maybe the meaning to the lyrics hasn't actually been found yet.

I actually don't think it's random dumbass gibberish, though.

Because there's symbolic exploration of a lot of different themes.

Death, renewal.

Wish-fulfillment.

Etc. etc.

Easy

Emo music seems to be the best in the shittiest fucking places.

I was excited to visit Long Island for the first time. Thought it might be cool.

Turns out it's just a long fucking island and that's it.

I'd want to write emo there too.

It's dumb horse shit like all of their other songs

It sounds actually like you're a random dumbass who calls words written by other people gibberish so you don't have to think about the words you right.

Maybe you should get the fuck off Anon Babble for a little bit until you stop being so fucking miserable.

Feel free to come back when you've found a way not to shit all over everything in full view of the entire world.

Not anywhere close to being better than Thursday either

You should seethe some more, faggot

Sorry, words you write*.

Let me reiterate, with the typo fixed:

It sounds actually,

like you're a random dumbass,

who calls words written by other people gibberish,

so you don't have to think about the words

YOU WRITE.

Didn't wanna give this guy the one last bit of ammo he had, now did I?

Oh wait. Yeah I know I'm reddit spacing.

Fuck off asshole.

I'm happy to seethe,

as long as you're happy to keep writing in this thread. :)

Sorry, guys.

Forgot to change my name to Gigafaggot.

Since he's a latent homosexual.

And he was going to call me a faggot, first chance he got.

kek

Anyway I wish I could post the lyrics here.

Because there actually is a lot of cool stuff to glean out of them.

"Dancing on the corpses' ashes."

Lots of cohesiveness, in general.

It's a song that makes me happy and gives me new hope to start again.

Even after being traumatized etc.

I wish you would kill yourself

I'm sorry you wish that.

Because if that's the first thing that comes to mind, then it's actually really sad, and makes me worried about you.

So you really ought to stop posting here.

Because the more you post, the sadder it seems to make you.

based
i wish they still made music like this, now they just make quirk chungus millenialcore

quirk chungus millenialcore

Lol. What's a band like this?

I'm sure there are a lot.

Pierce the Veil. Other one I was trying to think of.

I felt like this about The Waiting when the big sound, crossover exposure of Full Collapse dropped, 2001. Along w/ Thursday, Victory had been collecting emo hardcore bands like Grade, BoySetsFire (all great Victory records), excellent period for that label. Grade's Under The Radar is definitely imo the pick of litter

I've listened to Full Collapse, here and there, certainly stands up, but it's been decades since I re-listened to the Waiting, to your post, anon, I'll put it on for a memory lane listen.

You should stop posting here with your faggot spacing and your trauma dumping. No one here cares. Go get a fucking diary.

Also this might be a bit left-field,

but screamo and emoviolence are still "kind of post-hardcore."

Since it was a reaction to the exhaustion of hardcore punk in the 80s, and 90s.

A good example would be pg. 99's Document #5.

There are punk shouts, but also screams.

I don't think I'm the one dumping trauma here.

Every time you react this way, trying to hurt other people on the internet,

that's the trauma you're dumping.

Maybe you should consider getting your own fucking diary.

Seems like you actually do need one.

Because you shit your feelings all over everyone else on the internet which prevents you from actually thinking about them.

Which is what makes you so dumb, unfunny, and retarded.

Every other post is I WAS TRAUMATIZED. No one cares about you or the dumb shit you keep posting. Half of your responses are to yourself. You'd be better off talking to a wall. I wish I knew why emo and post hardcore brought out the biggest retards on this site.

I was traumatized.

I no longer am.

You still are.

Because every time you see that word,

it produces an angry reaction.

I wish I knew why emo and post hardcore brought out the biggest retards on the site, too.

Consider getting the fuck off it for a bit.

You're right.

I would be better off talking to a wall.

I might actually start expecting a wall to talk back better than you.

Wouldn't expect anything less than a complete autistic response from you

Good. Because you shouldn't.

Wasn't expecting anything less than for you to respond more and more,

getting angrier and angrier,

while everyone watches you take your dumb little shit.

Fuck off. :)

Kill yourself :)

It sounds like you are very traumatized.

I won't kill myself.

I'm glad I didn't.

I hope you don't either.

I'm no going to respond anymore.

Because you're clearly hurting.