when did punk start being cringe?
When did punk start being cringe?
When MTV and Clear Channel choked it out
1976
Like all genres, when it gains popularity overseas and then lame suburban Americans emulate foreign artists without understanding the context and difference in their music
Monday
be first true pop punk
put lolis on your album cover
proudly sell out and become an MTV superstar
somehow not be cringe
Some people just have it.
when it became post
Always was
Post were far, far cooler just for Killing Joke (I'm not the KJ fag btw).
The Clash
probably around 94 when acts like Blink 182, Green Day started popping out
Can you even call it loli if it is a photo of an actual child?
This
It was pop at that point
Shit, I don't know how that works.
Punk was fine as a musical joke— "smart kids acting dumb" as exemplified by Ramones, Dictators, etc. It became cringe when people started taking it seriously.
1964
Ramones
smart
Mid 90s when pop-punk started to become mainstream. Green Gay, Offspring and bands like that ruined it.
It was always cringe. The Sex Pistols were a manufactured boy band created by a gay man to capitalise on the punk trend in the UK.
Yes.
as soon as the brits got ahold of it
Blink and Green Day were true punks until 2003 and 2004 respectively. They became cringe when they completely sold out after that. Blink actually later, some of their post reunion records are pretty good.
Homophobia aside, this guy kind of gets it. There were always cringe ass punk bands since the beginning of the movement, most notably The Runaways / Joan Jett being exploitative of the whole "I'm a rock 'n' roll chick! Yeah yeah!" shtick. Other side of this cringe shit was edgelords such as Siouxsie and Sid Vicious wearing nazi imagery for the lulz
In the US 1980 when hardcore was taking off
>put lolis on your album cover
Which album?
When they started feeling it necessary to wear anti-nazi badges and took it too seriously
early punks were all about breaking taboos and offending the public it was just one big joke and they were in on it
When punk stop being nihilistic and transgressive it was transformed
let's stop fooling ourselves here, punk was cringe the SECOND it came out, the lower economic class will always incur in cringe behavior, it's unescapable
Mid to late 90s. Black Metal also stopped being cringe gradually when I was in high-school. Emo is and always will be cringe. Listen to Satyricons 90s Albums,2000s Drudkh,2000s Agalloch,The Gauntlet,OLD Nick,90s Tulus,90s Mayhem,90s Enslaved,90s Emperor,90s Forgotten Woods,90s Bazzah,90s Graveland,The First Two Fleurety Demos (yes these are also from the 90s),90s Graveland,the first two Ved Buens Ende Demos,90s Carpathian Forest,90s Thorns (first two demos),90s Darkthrone,90s Summoning,90s Neburas,90s Nokturnal Mortum,90s Ulver,90s Mysticum,90s North,90s Northland,90s Black Funeral,90s ABSU,90s Funeral Frost,90s Hades,90s Crimson Moon,90s Crimson Evenfall,Vallendusk,Panopticon,90s Rotting Christ,90s Varatharon,90s Mystifier,and maybe like wharblut or whatever that was called.
When it was named punk
Punk died the second anyone actually heard about it
sorry why is agalloch on that black metal list, that would be considered post metal
I always considered them Black Metal. They're one of many bands that helped me get into the genre.
OGs such as me used to consider them black metal. The idea that they are post-metal came from zoomers and late millenials obsession with The Mantle, which is their only pure post-metal record, and still highly influenced by black metal. All of their other releases (excepting EPs) were always some kind of black metal:
From Which of This Oak - Melodic Black Metal
Promo 1998 - Pagan Black Metal
Pale Folklore - Atmospheric BM / Folk Metal hybrid
Ashes Against the Grain / MOTS / The Serpent - Post-Metal / Atmospheric BM hybrid
I don't hear any blast beats on Pale Folklore and Ashes against the grain though, not very misanthropic either and not evil on the riffs, but if you wanna make that point, I agree that they can be considered "folk metal" (but then again, would you say a folk metal band like Arkona or Manegarm are black metal? at least those do sound evil) I'm not sure I would even call Faustian Echoes black metal, maybe the first 3 minutes and that's it lol...
When they started selling studded bracelets in Woolworth's, man
it has always been
they had to mix with metal to be cool
They were just joking ffs
Generation X per se..not Idol alone.
blast beats
Blast beats are just an element of black metal, and there are many iconic BM songs that lack blast beats (Dunkelheit, for example).
Not very misanthropic and evil on the riffs
Again, just an element present in some black metal bands. Furthermore, Agalloch are primarily an atmospheric black metal band, which makes their sound softer than 3rd wave norwegian trve kvlt evil bands. Think of something like Le Secret by Alcest or Ruines humaines by Amesoeurs; is it black metal? Yes. Is it evil? Mostly not.
when New Wave came around and did Punk better
nah, you can't simply come here and say that the music you like is "black metal" when it clearly it's shoegaze, or post metal, or folk metal, or some other bullshit. If you aren't clear on what black metal is, there's still four days left for you to get up to date in our november general! :) cheers
Poor kid. This Picture must have been shot in the UK. Because she's super young. She's probably dead now, trying to get rid of the memories of creepy brits and (((executives))), molesting her
Come on man, be real. Black metal is more than just Bathory, Hellhammer and Mayhem. Even fucking Strawberry Hospital is black metal youtube.com
Malcolm took to much credit for the pistols and those guys were no boy band
The Ramones still MOG them though
youtu.be
when faggots started taking it seriously and put labels on it
Never, except for people, that making their entire personality
Like picrel poser douches
Exactly