What killed rock?

was it rap becoming more popular? was it the feminization of it in the 2000s and becoming more popular with teenage girls?

only real educated scientific discussion allowed

rich people stopped liking rock, that's what killed it
soon they will stop liking rap, and it's gonna go away just like that
country is trying oh so hard to be it but rich people simply don't like it, so it's not gonna happen.
I'm gonna go ahead and guess techno and house will be next but it won't last long cause that shit is so fucking boring on god
then maybe we will get an indie revival? IDK

All popular music will be AI generated by the end of the decade.

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rich people stopped liking rock, that's what killed it

Richfags never liked rock, you dumbshit. They always perceived Zeppelin, AC/DC, Sabbath etc as meathead chud music for lower class people.

that's true until you cross the 1981 barrier, suddenly every rich rich millenial loves to fill their mouth about the rolling stones, guns n roses, pink floyd, even metallica as if they are the most exquisite art and how it's a part of their culture etc.

Richfags in the 70s were into folkshit and singer-songwriters not hard rock. There are studies about this that show people in higher income brackets tend to prefer mellower and not as aggressive music.

now all that low quality buttindie is richfag Millenial music although of course it's totally flat elevator music

You guys make fun of and demean the monoculture. But that’s exactly why Rock has fallen. It’s been split so many ways that there’s absolutely no consensus on new rock music. It’s driving the shitty “alternative” stations and the “buttrock” stations into irrelevance. All they can use is look at the old stuff that’s tested decently and replay that. Country music doesn’t have that problem. Boy howdy are they alright with playing Jelly Roll, or Luke Bryan, or Morgan Wallen or about ten to twenty other obnoxious bro country artists infinitely. Maybe, the average Rock fan is smarter than Country the average Country listener. Certainly, the average Rock listener is more engaged in the music than the average Country listener.

This is fine, though. I like being in my corner of softer, more melodic rock. There are others who like the abrasive stuff.

A lot of guys in country right now would've been doing southern rock a few decades ago. At some point country and southern rock just became one and the same for the most part.

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Ran out of talent and only talentless hacks left pumping out garbage

Rap only became more popular because rock was intentionally destroyed by the record industry in the 90s.

Economics, especially in the UK where affordable housing and practice space and transport is hard to come by now, especially for bands that use a drumkit, meaning electronic percussion is favoured thus the turn away from rock to indie pop after the recession started in the late 00s. Why would labels and musicians bother with the overheads of being a rock band when they can do as well or better audience-wise by making something on a laptop and having some A&R yuppie's nepobaby niece warble over it?

It's not the only factor but it's a big one.

Weeb shit

Many, many factors

rap is easier and cheaper to make

solo artists are easier and cheaper for labels to deal with

the DAW eventually made rock lose it's live, vibey feel because it became too easy to isolate, and edit everything

rock became less about having fun and more about being angry, sad, in pain, etc. It stopped being a party, which normless love

very few "rock star" personalities in the genre - almost everyone is a boomer, nerd, etc.

it's harder and harder to find practice space for a real band

venues becoming increasingly hard to come by for loud rock

rap is more degen so the noses in charge push that instead

rock music production became increasingly awful-sounding

I mean they don't really like rap either unless it's "safe" guys like Kendrick or Frank Ocean that white hipsters can listen to.

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AC/DC is genuine chud music. Zeppelin and Sabbath are too nerdy to qualify.

When music industry folks realized that girls like pop rock just for the pop, there was no reason to make rock anymore.

At the risk of sounding misogynistic...

Young women are the majority of listeners in general and are easily pleased. Because they are typically casual and just want to see a cute boy they want to fuck a cute girl they want to be / project onto, sing catchy, soft shit. They dont like abbrasive things, its scary.

And it hurts to admit but after a decade of corny melodramatic emo pop punk amd nu metal, that shit its not hip anymore to like. It became a big joke. Which is kind of the fault of these genres becoming so saturated, it became really easy to stereotype them.

So now girls want to essentially just listen to various forms of pop disuised as indie, folk, and rap. But if you listen to it its all the same soft droney shit because being angry and loud in music became an uncool trope.

No hating them because hey, these people are young and uniformed and the only reason any of us are different is we had the privilege of being exposed to more interesting music in our youth.

NOOO WE HAVE TO LOSTEN TO RHCP NIRVANA GREEN DAY ACDC SABBATH AND THE WHO ALL DAY EVERY DAY FOREVER AND EVER

STOP MAKING NEW MUSIC

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Everything in 124573305 is a copypaste I've seen many times before, probably lifted from a subreddit.

The most creditable answer is that they stopped making music for anyone but rich hipsters since 2008 because there's not really a middle class anymore since 2008 so those are the only people with any money.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The main thing that stops me from enjoying modern rock is the production, absolutely soulless for the last 15 years.

zoomers will bring it back with incelcore

Most zoomers are big on indie rock and alt rock music, and the y2k shit has brought more interest into stuff like nu metal, shoegaze, pop punk... etc. Rock will come back once zoomers create the market for it, there just needs to be an influx of new bands that gain prominence amongst them and we're back bros

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The main thing that stops me from enjoying modern rock is the production, absolutely soulless for the last 15 years

I think that's mainly because of a lack of talented producers nowadays. Who the fuck ever thought Jack Antonoff had any talent?

Most zoomers are big on indie rock and alt rock music, and the y2k shit has brought more interest into stuff like nu metal, shoegaze, pop punk... etc

This is why everyone says that the end of the monoculture is what killed rock. All rock fans and musicians carve out their little niches and are happy to remain there. There have already been big shoegaze and pop punk revivals led by zoomers and younger millenials, and both remained contained into their own internet bubbles.

everybody wants to be the guy in the spotlight, the singer
nobody wants to put in years learning guitar or bass or drums only to be in some douche's shadow

rap and hip hop were perfect for this mindset

I mean rock has overstayed its welcome, you're asking for innovation in a genre that has roughly existed for over 70 years, if we are to start in 1954 (some would argue since the late 40s), that's a long time for a genre to be evolving, jazz innovation lasted around 62 years between the late 1910s and late 70s. If we are to compare this to rock 1954-2024 is 70 years, it has definitely overstayed it's welcome, it makes perfect sense that it died out in the early 2010s. Rap and electronic music will probably be the leading genres until the 2050s or so. Rock is in it's "post-relevancy" stage where people are still innovating in the underground and revivals occur but nothing really that drastically new will be happening anytime soon or as exponentially as it used to.