I miss 2010's indie like you wouldn't fucking believe. Music was exciting and I was full of hope
I miss 2010's indie like you wouldn't fucking believe. Music was exciting and I was full of hope
i miss 90s alt rock, it was better and not blinded by obama era hopeium that was an illusion
Cousins is such an awesome song
i never thought i'd miss 2010s indie but somehow today's music is even lamer
Do you guys like Ted Leo
You were just younger lol
It's actually late 2000s and early 2010s indie. Somewhere between 2007 ans 2013.
Whats the current contemporary equivalent for ppl in their late teens and early 20s to get excited about in terms of music or cultural movements?
rich kids
dicking around
Vampire Weekend's self titled is a masterpiece. I don't care how oversaturated it is, those melodies are earworms.
Ott loves Contra.
Vampire Weekend is some of the most annoying music ever created
I love Vampire Weekend
I hate how "world music" shifted from Arabic/Desi/Spanish to Afrobeat spam however
They have nothing
The GOAT
Desi
jeet detected
No
I just jerk off to fat ass Indian Girls on twitter so I picked up their slang
Same man
The lyrics are completely insignificant though unless I'm missing something. Ezra literally even sings unironic nonsense in Cousins.
"Awesome" is a bridge too far unqualified, when it's merely sonically awesome. It also gets an unjustified bump from being the literal only track in the discog with the same energy; even A-Punk is too upbeat and whimsical.
I've never heard of Ted Leo.
Whats the current contemporary equivalent for ppl in their late teens and early 20s to get excited about in terms of music or cultural movements?
Rap. See Bully buzz and I Am Music hype. It's all wiggertry.
It's actually late 2000s and early 2010s indie. Somewhere between 2007 and 2013.
Indeed more or less precisely, which is basically the hipster era's last run.
Vampire Weekend's self titled is a masterpiece.
Masterpiece is a stretch, the bulk of the tracks are mid compared to their best work, too umambitious due to the ignorance of youth. Even its best doesn't quite stand equally within their pantheon.
I don't care how oversaturated it is
that's irrelevant, we're not real hipsters here
sorry you didn't get to go to a liberal arts college
fat ass Indian Girls
I'm something of an enjoyer myself.
You know what I meant. No one's longing for the great indie scene of 2017 lol.
well...
More like your ass was full of rope
Short answer: No, the culture is cannibalizing itself and everything has become splintered. There aren't wide-spread collective moments or subcultures to really bring it all together anymore.
Long Answer: The thirty year cycle is the closest thing you're going to get to a cohesive, satisfying and collective moment without having an outright subculture, that's why all the electronic groups are ripping off '80s synthpop, indie bands are ripping off Shoegaze, why they all have a "lo-fi" sound, or all three of those things at once.
The only real movement I've seen in the past couple of years was the British post-punk movement, while the others are sporadic and individualistic like bringing back "90s alt rock", or genres like techno, and trance, you'll have a song like "Beaches" by Beabadoobee, or that album Choke Enough by Oklu, but nothing collective that brings it all together in an actual collective musical movement.
I've not yet seen a Grunge revival though. Which is odd.
Everything popular, indie, and in-between is determined by artificial online algorithms, rather than organic congregations of people. This is why things will become popular and spring up out of nowhere, especially if you're not in that online community. Cause and effect. You've seen the effect of an album like BRAT, but you wouldn't know or have seen the cause of it unless you were in that online-sphere at that time.
This is also why Plastic Love became popular out of nowhere. It just happens because the algorithm determined it so.
Essentially you're stuck with a lot of different bands and people doing different genres on their own whim without adhering to a movement, a subculture, or the thirty year cycle.
So now you'll have one guy releasing a '70s inspired funk album, a 1950s revival doo-wop vocal group releasing an album, a British post-punk group releasing an album, etc.
what an embarrassing moment
Who'll be my valentine?
Who'll lift this heavy load?
Who'll share this taxicab?
Who wants to climb aboard?
Politics are the new subculture
20-30 years ago politics were gay shit for old people and nerds in the debate club.
Now zoomers (millennials are guilty of this too) make politics their entire identity. We got teenagers posting about the Supreme Court or random congressional elections in Florida instead of movies or music or cliques
we don't post diary entries here
kids today are fucking lame lol
one day the world will admit they were wrong for hating hipsters (and hippies too). for real people, it was and still is real shit with huge truth nukes, but the masses just make fun of the low hanging trust fund kid fruit
BARELY. that pales in comparison to anything before it. who is going to be nostalgic for the garbage the talentless "artists" of today slop out? tasteless retards??
does gen z create anything thats not tik toks or whatever? what is their defining genre? half of bedroom pop was like 30 yo millenials making it
does gen z create anything thats not tik toks or whatever?
cleary not
that pales in comparison to anything before it
Greatest Hits is one of if not the greatest pop punk album ever released.
One reason for this is quality of life is objectively worse now. 20 years ago things were relatively ok and people could give attention to art without appearing aloof.
Are there any popular destinations for culture on the web like the old Pitchfork?
DID I STUTTER???
he was a prophet
greatest hits still slaps
you were just young , and you are going to die
greatest hits
they weren't lying
unfortunately the zoomers are all on TikTok, X, Reels and other shit
you're right. hipsters brought a lot of originality in a time after peak corporate slop. we've gone back to that unfortunately
Art is supposed to flourish in troubling times and suffer in good times.
pop punk
i just threw up in my mouth a lot. most nebulous, overused term ever. calling remo drive pop punk is ridiculous too lol. they are borderline bedroom pop.
bedroom pop
this term makes even less sense and is even less applicable in this case
pop punk means music that follows how punk was played but tries to make it sound less shit musically, and isn't afraid to be more sentimental
There's this myth that a dying mind replays its happiest memories from the past, possibly a last effort by the brain to keep itself alive and motivated.
Extrapolate that to the current state of culture.