DEATH GRIPS IS NOT OVER

DEATH GRIPS IS NOT OVER
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It's never been over. Even Andy's message was vague. If they wanna do something they will and if they don't they won't. It's always been like this.

ANDY IS OUT OF THE BAND

Despite rumor and herasay we remain active as death grips. - Stefan and Zach

They better fucking drop a single this week. Don't announce this and go another year without doing shit.

DEATH GRIPS IS ONLINE

Andy was never really creatively involved as far as I know. He was their engineer

DEATH GRIPS IS ONLINE

We are so back

Very good to see this. Hopefully that means a new album could be on the way, and that Reddit niggers don't ruin future live shows. Could be my time to catch them if they tour.

DEATH GRIPS IS ONLINE

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WOW WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING???
WHAT A TWIST!

last album was 7 years ago

andy said they're over

last tour was 2 years ago and they just played old stuff

I'd say its pretty surprising.

this could be huge

yeah but its still not clear if this just means they'll tour every now and then or if they have new music coming.

If we don't get a single this month, I'm just gonna assume it means they have tours planned for the future and that's it.

This isn’t necessarily true. He was responsible for much of the sample usage on many songs even early as exmilitary. He’s also the one that fished basically all the bjork samples. Government plates was the first album where he had any creative input at all though. But yes overall he didn’t have near as much input into the sound as Stefan or Zach.

I almost guarantee that’s what will happen. They probably just mean that they’re still active like they’ll do tours or that they create death grips together for just themselves or some bullshit. I HIGHLY doubt we will get any new music anytime soon. I feel like if they were, it would’ve just been better to just drop a crazy music video out of nowhere on all of us.

elon musk diss (20min) and anthony fauci diss (15min) dropping soon as a single mp4 file on soulseek

Government plates was the first album where he had any creative input at all though

What do you base that on? Government Plates like niggas on the moon is pretty much all v-drums in terms of production, so I'd say those two albums are even more Zach than anything that came before it.

Zach is even credited for the arrangements in the liner notes, so that makes me even more skeptical of you saying he's the one that fished all the bjork samples

That's true, if they had anything, they would have just dropped it and let that be the announcement that they're still making shit.

So, I guess more tours it is, never ever new music.

5/2/11 for 20 year old white boys.

If they are continuing the group I could see Nick joining full-time as they abandon the computer-driven music into basically punk rock. But given how they haven't released an album in 6-7 years maybe Death Grips will be an art collective or some shit.

Undo K From Hot was Zach and Nick and they hardly abandoned the computer stuff

niggas on the moon is pretty much all v-drums in terms of production

Not necessarily. All Instrumentation was done via zach hill using V-drums, but there was still plenty of production input into the record as well overall that wasn't JUST v-drums. It just means that there weren't any keys used in the input of sound, but they still obviously went in after the fact and edited shit/touched it up/added things here or there.

Zach is even credited for the arrangements

Yeah Zach is the one who picked which samples to use and like how long each sample is on each hit and which drum each sample should be on and so on and so forth, but Andy was the one who actually extracted them in the first place while he was in Iceland.

Government Plates like niggas on the moon is pretty much all v-drums

Well for starters I highly disagree. GP has A LOT more actual keyed synths and operators going on in the production while NOTM is mostly just constructed out of warped bjork samples then edited after the fact. They're only similarity is their more stripped back and electronic natures.

What do you base that on?

Andy did an AMA on here back in 2015 that was pretty much confirmed to either be him or someone close to him as he was answering things that checked out that only really him or like I said someone close to him would know. One of the questions was why was he missing from the NLDW tour. He answered that he went to Iceland to "get away from everything and clear his head", to work on his own projects, work on Government Plates, and also fished most of the bjork vocal samples. In another question someone asked how much creative input he has into Death Grips. Which he replied he hadn't actually had too much real input until Government Plates. He said he was allowed more creative liberties with that project than any before. He didn't say if he had the same amount of input into NOTM or JD.

Oh and to add on to that. Some creepy redditors found out that earlier that year in 2012 Andy's father had committed suicide, so the whole "going to iceland to clear my head" point seemed to check out.

I don't get where the argument comes from that Andy had no input on Death Grips' sound, literally just listen to his solo stuff and you'll hear how much of an influence he had, especially the more electronic albums.

I was very excited by this initially but then I realized they would have dropped new music if they had any

So this is likely just referring to future touring

Death Grips died when Andy quit, and the glow stick incident was their funeral. Honestly they should've thrown in the towel after YOTS.

When did Andy quit? He was with them on their last tour.

they dropped him mid tour and Nick took his place

Wasn't this just due to him having other projects on at the same time? There have been tours without Andy before as well as tours without Zach.

Don't listen to them. As of now there is no real true confirmation that Andy is no longer part of Death Grips, just because he wasn't on the last leg of the tour doesn't mean they "dropped him" I'm sure there was some reason. He's been missing from tours before this. Until we get a new Death Grips album and it doesn't credit him at all or if we get future tours and he's no longer there, then it will be safe to assume he's gone from the band.

all of that was speculation, the more likely reason is a falling out.
dude did you look at the photo they posted? It's signed by Stefan and Zach, there's literally no reason to make that distinction if it isn't because Andy is out.

Eh I really don’t think so. I’d say it’s because it’s more of a response to what Andy said so it would seem kind of weird for Andy to be included in the signature.

Also. Andy, while yes is an integral part to the group as a whole. The majority of the art produced by death grips is from Stefan and Zach. I would say they consider themselves more of a duo w/ a close producer/engineer than a full on band so that’s why.

I’d say it’s because it’s more of a response to what Andy said so it would seem kind of weird for Andy to be included in the signature.

if nothing had changed whatsoever, don't think it'd make more sense to post the photo without their signatures at all? Going out of their way to make it known that it is Stefan and Zach that are saying the band is still active is a curious detail.

It feels wrong to jump to conclusions here especially given how Death Grips is always been very obscure about what's going on behind the scenes. Andy's message that went public never implied any fallout between him and the other members, the pic being signed Stefan and Zach could very well just be due to the ball lying in their court now after Andy's message went public. We don't know anything.

I CAN'T BELIEVE ANDY IS DEAD!

Going out of their way to make it known that it is Stefan and Zach that are saying the band is still active is a curious detail.

Nah, it seems just like a co-sign of confirmation that both Zach and Stefan have agreed to make more music is all. I don't see it as some sly way to exclude Andy from the band. Andy has never really had the say so if more death grips will be a thing. It's always just between zach and stefan. if stefan doesnt want to do it, then no more death grips, if zach doesnt want to do it, no more death grips. andy doesn't really have a say like that. All this picture is showing us is that both zach AND stefan are in agreement to make more, so there should be more. Andy will either be there or he won't but this picture is not confirmation that he won't.

Didn't Nick Reinhart say he was removed from the band?

Going out of their way to make it known that it is Stefan and Zach that are saying the band is still active is a curious detail.

What's even more curious is that the pic wasn't actually signed by Stefan and Zach, the writing is consistent throughout the text meaning that either one of them signed for both of them, or someone else entirely signed for both of them. Given that Andy is much more online, wouldn't it make sense that he held main access to the bbpoltergiest account? This whole thing could genuinely just be a ruse.

I heard he implied it on Tim Heidecker's Office Hours, but the full ep is paywalled so I haven't seen it myself

What's even more curious is that the pic wasn't actually signed by Stefan and Zach, the writing is consistent throughout the text meaning that either one of them signed for both of them

Wrong, it was written by stefan and his handwriting is consitent with his signature, Zachs signature is different it was definitely signed by Zach. Look at it more closely. Stefan does this thing where he write words in mostly ALL caps, but there are some instances where words have some lowercase and some caps. like the word ActiVE or REMAiN, which is constisten with his signature SteFan with each letter having a good amount of space, meanwhile Zach's signature looks completely different and all the letters connect smoothly.

That doesn't line up at all with their philosophy as a band though. At the beginning they did not want to give any credits beyond themselves as a unit, so everyone was an equal contributor. There was even that brief moment in time where the "Flatlander" name was cleared up as being the three of them, not just Andy. They always went out of their way to present themselves as one thing.

If nothing had changed within the band then they would never ever have signed that photo. I don't think this means that Andy has to be out of the band forever, but he clearly is as of this moment in time.

signed for both of them

bro, look at the "a"s on Stefan's signature then on zachs and tell me that's the same handwriting, lol

Stefan has to have some of the worst E's I've ever seen in handwriting. they're atrocious lol

That's just their philosophy for the idea of the sound for the band. But in terms of like executive decisions like if the band will continue or not, it pretty much entirely rests in Stefan and Zach's hands. Andy, while yes is an equal contributor, is not relevant to the announcing of continued pursuit of death grips material. Death Grips could easily continue without andy, but could not easily continue without stefan or zach, so he's not as relevant to the broader picture of an announcement like that imo. All I'm saying is, is that people shouldn't take this announcement as "Oh hey were making new stuff, btw without andy this time" and instead take it as "Despite what andy may have said, Zach and I have agreed to continue Death Grips" So no I don't see it as blanket confirmation that Andy is no longer part of the group.

People put a lot of weight behind Andy trolling/trust testing some kid on instagram

and instead take it as "Despite what andy may have said, Zach and I have agreed to continue Death Grips" So no I don't see it as blanket confirmation that Andy is no longer part of the group.

But if that was what they were doing, there would be no need to sign the photo.

Like I said before, It's a confirmation of a co-sign between stefan and zach. So you know FOR SURE that they're both on the same page.