/classical/

Strauss the First edition
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This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

How do I get into classical?

This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
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Wagner remarks how much more original the waltzes of the elder Strauss were, whereas the artistically more elaborate ones of his sons either are contrived or were greatly influenced by Chopin.

“the Strauss waltzes (by the elder Strauss) better than Auber, they have fire; also, they are genuine products, Vienna really did evolve the waltz out of its own essence.”

“A single Strauss waltz surpasses in grace, refinement and real musical substance most of the products of foreign manufacture that we often import at such great cost.”

I do not care for Mahler.

It's alright, there's still plenty of time.

Liszt-Weiner

youtu.be/oL_3DvfqTCs

Very interesting arrangement, makes me wonder what a non-programmatic Liszt symphony would sound like. Nice

Symphonic poem or wagnerian opera, which is better?

Wagnerian opera is basically sui generis in the history of music. Even opera composers who were influenced by him like Verdi, Taneyev, Strauss, Berg, etc. never actually tried to recreate it. Meanwhile the tone poem became a universal musical form that every composer and their dog has written in. You're asking whether the total achievement of Wagner outweighs the total achievement of every symphonic poem in existence.

every composer and their dog has written in

I can only really think of Liszt and Strauss

Just among the more popular stuff, there's also Dvorak, Sibelius, Rachmaninoff, the only Smetana piece most people have heard.

What a strange juxtaposition

Classical pieces that feel like the melancholy of leaving your childhood while also excited about everything which is yet foreign to you?

some gay ass mahler piece no doubt.

kek this

Magnificat I give this 5/5 stars

Parsifal as performed by the Shanghai Symphony Orchestra when? Guarantee they'll import German performers and I won't have to hear amerimutts sharting up my opera ever again

My favorite classical composition

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What y’all edging to today?

What classical form is it in?

that means you've got taste and probably don't have any bowel issues

it was Sibelius 4 for me.

More like guaranteed that they'll have chinky singers. They just kind of pump out classical performers over there without any regard for quality.

I masturbate whenever I listen to Wagner, it's like porn for me. Wagnerian music comes in handy when you have to masturbate in ecstasy, much better then watching/imagining porn directly.

Wagner ruined ordinary porn for me.

Low tier for cryptopsy. Low tier for death metal.

I sincerely think those that hate Mahler are wignats who simply hate it for the fact that Hitler banned it. I cannot really think of anything to hate about his works besides maybe length (In which case, pop music is better suited to you than classical music).

and probably don't have any bowel issues

wtf are you stalking me? how did you know I only shit once a week at most and love mahler

Can anyone get on vocaroo and pronounce "Konzertvereingung Wiener Staatsopernochor" please, thank you

Not classical. Not music.

i hate mahler because i have a real distaste for music that tries to sweep me up and feel profound emotions. i like nimble and precise and airy music that neatly does its job. mahler's grotesque monumentalism is the antithesis of this.

1. Destroyed the symphony.

2. Couldn't write an original melody.

3. I find him emotionally unsympathetic and strained, almost consciously farcical.

disgusting but respectable

he literally perfected it. he completed the form.

just use google übersetzer

black excellence

Destroyed the symphony

nothing was lost

he literally perfected it. he completed the form.

By ruining its noble simplicity and turning it into a shitty tone poem with choruses?

He wrote every kind of symphony. Okay, so you don't like the 2nd or 3rd, but the 5th, 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th should be right up your alley.

You seem to have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't want your chamber music textures in my symphony, or any of your Mahlerian nonsense.

My point is Mahler didn't just do "one" thing; anything you hate present in one or two or three symphonies of his, there are a handful of others without it. Anyway, I hope you come around some day, but if not, then to each his own.

Wagner was a hack.

What are some good youtube channels about classical music, either informative or that share music?

For me its Early Music Sources, very well produced videos and interesting content
youtube.com/@EarlyMusicSources

For sharing music, these are the ones that really helped me get started in familiarizing myself with the standard repertoire and a wide array of performers before I learned how to look up and discover recordings on my own. Invaluable resources without which I don't know how else I would have managed to gain a foothold on properly exploring classical music.

youtube.com/@olla-vogala4090
youtube.com/@cgoroo
youtube.com/@AshishXiangyiKumar
youtube.com/@incontrariomotu

there are a few other good ones but these are the main four

High tier for classical

Thanks, I will check them out

Disgusting

a good way of learning about music is just picking up a book about music history and listening to anything that intrigues you. that's how i did it.

Music that tries to make you feel emotions is cheating

I can't stop listening to Bach's WTC!

For me it’s Silverstein’s WTC

i hear you. mr pinnock is a master on the 'chord

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four random pieces from the first disc as a sample to get you hooked
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listen to those and you will surely fall in love and desire listening to the entire set

For his latest release on Sony Classical, pianist Lucas Debargue turns to one of the unsung treasuries of the piano repertoire - the works of Gabriel Fauré. In a remarkable undertaking, Debargue has recorded every note of his compatriot's piano music - all on a newly designed piano rarely heard on record until now. For this recording, Debargue has reexamined Fauré's entire output for piano, starting from the beginning. Across 4 CDs, he 'retraces the journey that the composer had taken from his earliest works for the piano to his last contribution to the medium.' Recording it, reports the pianist, has 'transformed my life both as a person and as a musician'.

on the thumbnail he just looks like a really fat guy

yeah i genuinely wonder what people get out of it

very Brando in Apocalypse Now esque

Quite unironically, in all seriousness, better than 99 percent of anything posted here