Robert Christgau had mixed reviews for the album, praising ‘Twentieth-century Fox’ as a clever song, and ‘Break on Through’ as a “great hard rock original”. However, he had some reservations about “esoteric” material such as ‘The End’, which he rebuked as a “long, obscure dirge”. Lyrics such as “our love becomes a funeral pyre”, which Morrison added to Robby Krieger’s ‘Light My Fire’ he proclaimed were self-indulgent.
imagine being such a pleb
Imagine actually caring about a critic's opinion.
the end is babies first esoteric "experimental" song and its still amazing. That said When The Music's Over is the superior long doors song
Xgau obviously has a chip on his shoulder about any attractive musician, male or female. DLR summarized the situation with his quip about critics and Elvis Costello.
Rock critics are what happens when nerds get some semblance of power
This is true, also nice dubs
I liked whisky bar and take it as it comes.
his quip about critics and Elvis Costello.
What did he say?
I'm not convinced Xgau and a lot of these critics even like music. His critique always comes across as someone talking about extraneous detail around the music, it's discussing 'music' in the same way a person might discuss if a leather sofa pairs well with a coffee table in your lounge. As opposed to someone feeling a piece of music on a visceral level.
"The reason the critics all like Elvis Costello better than me is because they all look like Elvis Costello."
It's actually because Elvis Costello makes great music and David Lee Roth doesn't. Christgau may be an exception, but most critics rate The Doors highly too.
based and checked
does anyone have a mega link of the new record store day strange days demo's?
our love becomes a funeral pyre
rather cringe, yes
i love siouxsie and the banshees
Both sucked after 1984 anyway.
Probably. I just listened to This Years Model and it sounded like uninspired dogshit. I'm pretty sure that guy was an incel at the time.
he cares about lyrics
opinion dropped
most critics rate The Doors highly too.
wtf. all of them craped on the doors. dave marsh, lester bangs, all the fucking pitchfork/NME crowd etc...
Dick Meltzer thought they were the best thing in the world through their first album and lost interest after that
Dick Meltzer
i was gonna mention him as an exception. glad that you know about him. he said they were the best band that he saw live.
Great name, Dick Meltzer. S tier
Oh yeah, I read his book! Said he saw them without having heard of them at a little club under the Brooklyn bridge in lower Manhattan before they had a record out and was blown away.
yeah, the club name was ondine´s, think. it is not well known, but the doors were bigger in the NY Underground scene than V.U.themselves, who fared beter in boston. until light my fire was at least.
i meant
until light my fire was hit at least.
shit keyboard.
I'm not convinced Xgau and a lot of these critics even like music. His critique always comes across as someone talking about extraneous detail around the music, it's discussing 'music' in the same way a person might discuss if a leather sofa pairs well with a coffee table in your lounge. As opposed to someone feeling a piece of music on a visceral level.
Christgau cares more about the lyrics and message of music than the way it actually sounds. He's a proto-poptimist.
Not all critics are like this though
good non-faggot take for once
Yeah I found Densmore's post about the Ondine residency that I can't link here. Guess the album was already out (Jan '67) but Light My Fire wasn't a hit yet. Nico fucked both Morrison and Lou Reed (and Cale?) so there was some connection between the groups.
Immediately after 1984, Costello made King of America and Blood & Chocolate, two of the best records of the decade.
Sterling Morrison himself said that the doors played more in NY than the velvets. he was a fan also, surprisingly enough. (so was lou, but he was a contrarian)
filtered by light my fire
lmao
THE WEST IS THE BEST
same bro same. one of the best doors inspired bands
oh? looking that up rn thanks anon. ill share it if i find it.
Didn't take you for a Doors fan...
Robbie said Jim had a rule that every good song should have at least one strange but cool sounding line that will confuse the fans but HAS NO MEANING.
Christgau cares more about the lyrics and message of music than the way it actually sounds
well not exactly he does have certain kinds of sounds he likes and dislikes for example he has a massive beef with folk music and anything with really overkill singing like Whitney Houston
The reaction to Jim’s book of poetry (which would have been loved if a writer or poet released it) shows how critics felt about Jim/The Doors… it was a universal “LOL pretty boy thinks he’s smart!” which got him all depressed and fat.
Come From The Shadows [A&M, 1972]
How on Earth someone whose concept of beauty is so well-bred can pretend to visionary politics has always baffled me but for starters she could try writing verses where the object follows the predicate. Seriously, not just "the people" but plain people say "Scattered upon the four winds", not "Upon the four winds scattered." Actually they don't say that either, but more next time. C-
the lyrics are pretentious because I don't understand them
these guys have too much talent and it personally intimidates me
[rhetorical question]
[hallucinatory nitpick]
How did this cuck convince anyone that anything he says is worth caring about?
The Doors [Elektra, 1967]
I admit that some of the tunes retain considerable nostalgic appeal, but there's no way I can get around it--Jim Morrison sounds like an asshole. B-
In the early 2010s when I was going to college and the fucking "Hipsters" were around they specifically targeted The Doors in particular for being bad music, and that's when I knew that everyone was just turning into complete faggots. That was such a bizarre fucking meme of them to try to pull.
that was during Obama years when feminization and homosexualization of mass culture was being aggressively pushed from the top down
meds
thank you very