Rachmaninoff edition.
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This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western(European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.
How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
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Kino.
Will now listen to the Great Mass like that anon recommended.
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Largely boring. But that Brahms Requiem he just did is actually really good.
Is it good enough to warrant switching from another streaming service like Spotify?
I've finally started getting into classical in a serious fashion. The Greenberg lectures are Rosetta stones. Particularly his survey courses on the symphony, the concerto, opera, and the greatest orchestral and solo-piano works. I can think of no better way to find out where to start listening, as well what to listen for.
There's never been a better time in history to get into classical music than today.
I don't know about Greenberg lectures, but Hurwitz has nice videos for beginners, and his enthusiasm can be inspiring
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But in the end, you should do more listening than watching.
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Why do people still even make music when all the best music was made hundreds of years ago?
Hurwitz has nice videos
Relevancy. New modes of experience and being. Stuff like that. I can enjoy Beethoven and midwest emo in the same day.
Not that anon: I guess I can't really say for sure, but I imagine they're all pretty much the same, meaning you should just use whichever you're most comfortable with and whatever your library is already on. While I personally use YouTube Music and love it, the small amount of time I briefly used Spotify, it didn't seem too different. Well, except for I'm capped at 256kpbs on Premium. Oh well.
And on the third day, Christ was...
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Starting with a funeral march, passing through the introspective alto song “Urlicht” and ending in choral bliss and euphoria, Mahler’s Second is a deeply spiritual and personal contemplation on the secret of life and the possibility of overcoming death. For Bichkov, the symphony “shows the life cycle in all its struggles: suffering, joy, irony, humour, love and doubt.”
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No, its obvious why most people make music, because they simply don't appreciate the canon. I'm talking about contemporary composers who do. What possibly compels you to make a new piece of music when you know about St. Matthew Passion, the Unfinished Symphony and Parsifal? The last composer to make it big was Shostakovich, there's gotta be a reason for that.
Mahler's resurrection has nothing to do with the passion of Christ.
I was merely referencing the title, anon, there was no deeper meaning or suggested connection
it's a natural human urge. the greats of yesteryear felt too they were inferior to their predecessors. there's no rule saying art always has to be getting better and better. the world and art move together. you might as well ask what's the point of there being a government when the only decent method of government ceased to exist hundreds of years ago.
that's a dumb analogy. You need a concurrent government of some kind for a society to function. You don't need new art for a society to function, if anything new has been contributing to civilization's decay for a long time.
if it's a natural human urge (which it is) then it will occur regardless of whether it's needed or not. the point of the analogy was only to emphasize the fact that progress is no more a necessary condition in art than it is in government.
what it means to be human is constantly getting redefined by culture, history, technology, etc. even the highest high-water marks in music history cannot survive this intact.
not /classical/, try instead
brahms, rachmaninoff, wagner, brahms, rachmaninoff, wagner, brahms, rachmaninoff, wagner, fucking hell. branch out, you twats
forget mahler, lol
How do composers know what all the instruments can play? Like how are you supposed to anticipate a good double-stop opportunity on viola?
it’s called the study of orchestration
so they just go around memorizing all this stuff like pi to 1000 digits?
Rest assured I have. I've now listened to symphonies from every century:
Actually interesting and/or creative knowledge is a lot easier to remember than pi to 1000 digits because emotional association aids with memory.
aren't things which cannot be played ultimately arbitrary limitations of how the instrument works and therefore creatively stifling? I view general music theory like math and orchestration as more like chemistry.
replace Brahms with Bach and you have the current state
Stay on top of the literature. Which is easier than ever. Start by studying the standout pieces of each instrument from easiest to hardest, and judge where to go from there. This is easier than ever now with the Internet and LLMs to show you where to start looking.
This would be an advanced oboe piece:
not really, the physical function of the instrument is directly correlated with its sound. you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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what if I want a flute to play quietly in its top register? The only limitation is what the instrument is capable of. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with wanting a quiet flute sound in the extremes of its register, except that the instrument cannot play it. Also isn't study of orchestration pointless? I mean, if you don't already have a "sensitivity" for what all the instruments can do, like Hindemith, then you might as well kick rocks.
Wagner.
if you want an instrument to play something that is physically impossible for it to play, then you don’t actually want that instrument. it’s really not that hard to understand. literally just stop whining and pick up an orchestration treatise or two.
I'm not whining. I know its you, tripfag. I'm saying if somebody cannot study harmony, why can they study orchestration? I am holding your feet to the fire here. Now you could take the way out which is to say one is more fundamental and essential than the other, but that's what I want anyway.
i’m not the pedophile kraut; jazz musicians don’t know shit about orchestration.
I'm saying if somebody cannot study harmony, why can they study orchestration?
you can study both, moron. you’ve been holding your brain too close to your own fire and it’s melted into mush.