Will rock ever become mainstream again or is it done for good?
Will rock ever become mainstream again or is it done for good?
How many times are you fags going to keep asking this? Are you never satisfied?
it would take someone like taylor swift to lead that effort unfortunately.
Keep calm and listen to niggers.
it's super underground now trust me
I got an even better question for you. Who gives a shit?
In Rainbows was the natural conclusion of the genre
Rock will never be the popular music paradigm again, but it will continue to exist for several generations as a niche/throwback genre and there will continue to be frequent rock revivals that flirt with the mainstream but never cross over, as there have been for the last 20 years.
Thanks to social media and societal decay, retro/vintage/throwback culture is stronger than ever. This bodes well for aging music formats like rock that would otherwise go extinct if there was anything original of value being made today.
Popslut rock is thriving like never before!
People like original songs that make them move and snap their fingers. It could be Rock, it could be any genre. We need better Rock frontmen that's for sure.
this album suck balls
Lady Gaga could do it.
Who gives a shit? The whole point of rock music is that it's not meant to be mainstream. Rock, and I mean "real rock" was only ever truly mainstream for like 15 years from the mid 1950s to the late 1960s anyways, after that disco and R&B slop took over the charts and it's more or less been that way ever since aside from so-called "alternative" that pokes its head out onto the charts every so often. The point is that you retards are chasing a dream that died back in 1970
Nirvana killed rock
Seething hair metal fag
it's as mainstream as country is mainstream
kurt cobain
good
It's done and you know why?
Rock was already getting very hybrid even back in the 80s. The fact that half of the scene was doing some punk/post-punk and the other some heavy metal with synths already was a sign that purity was a thing of the past.
The 90s just brought that into full play. This trend of blurring the limits between genres reached its peak with alt-rock, to the point that even women playing piano or doing pop vocals with rock instrumentation were called alt-rock.
And metal either was forced to autistically retreat into its niches or go poppy like Metallica to stay relevant.
There was no way to do any kind of pure rock. Then after that the retro took over and the whole thing became very meta and decadent.
There's no way in hell for rock to simply return to a pure form. If it continues to play the hybridisation game that started in the 80s it will also sound much the same as alt-rock, like nothing really new.
emo killed rock.
i guess nirvana maybe inspired emo.
We just need real drums back
The electric guitar is a solved instrument. There's no moving forward for electric guitar music
I feel like Post Malone could've done something with is since that's his background but he went country instead.
this is absolutely not true.
if this was true, music as a whole would be solved.
the man has no integrity.
Have you not noticed the cultural stagnation of music? We are out of ideas, the electric guitar is just a bit deader than most instruments because of the extent of our experimentation with it
That would be even worse than rock remaining irrelevant.
...Which is really the problem with trying to revive rock desu. Modern pop culture is so shitty that any hypothetical modern normie rock would be an insult to the genre.
that's just not what's happening.
youre noticing something, but it's not what you think.
im too tired to explain.
something something people looking for something else something genres something
Unrelated to mainstream
solved
its not a fucking puzzle, autistic retard
It's cultural degradation all around.
Music today is largely dogshit and it's not because there's no nuance to it, it's all superficial.
You can still make good music with depth, even with the standard rock arrangement, but it's been completely commercialized to where there's so little experimentation when there's a 'safe route' of making something trendy for third-worlders.
Thats not rock
See
They'll never make great rock songs like in the past, old songs like "mary on a cross" is beyond the capability of modern musicians
Rock stopped being mainstream by the late 1980s
When people say shit like Kurt not being real rockstars what they mean is that his music doesn't illicit the same level of audience reaction and participation that traditional rock is meant to do. His shit is too downtempo and sad. Real rock is the shit that made audiences mosh to the beat and usually had a catchy chorus for audiences to chant alongside the band. Kurt didn't have this. Bands in the 60s had this, early punk and metal in the 70s and 80s had this, Kurt didn't have this, Radiohead didn't have this. No alternative acts had this. Rock died about 40 years ago dude.
If you like any songs other than black metal, you're gay.
no the problem is gatekeepers like you who would rather have a bunch of nobodies make music and do nothing rather than someone you don't like who can bring in a large audience to the genre.
Nirvana were pretty hard compared to all the English alt and goth bands of the 80s and 90s.
Wtf are you talking about, Nirvana was not downtempo.
On Nevermind, only In Bloom, Polly, Something in the way are downtempo.
Every other track is uptempo.
Why have DAWshaggers never been able to replicate the sound of an alternative rock guitar decently still? I've heard people make passable acoustic strums using synthesis and chugging speed metal chords, maybe slidey bluesy stuff at a push, but nothing like the guitar tones on The Holy Bible: youtu.be
There's videos on physical modelling of electric guitar on youtube but none of them sound as good as physically modelled strings, woodwinds, drums etc.; brass may be the main other area where a lot of it sounds like shit but there's still some that's okay whereas the best attempts at modelling rock guitar sound like this: youtu.be
What is it that has made the spiky, angular sound of British post-punk and 90s-onwards alternative rock so unassailable so far for the electronic crowd. Being able to make even bigger, brighter, more cleanly mixed rock guitar that can be integrated into electronic formats seems like one of the main ways the sound could adapt to the present day (being more democratised, and also with modern digital percussion production being as it is one could make a punchier sound than ever before which would address a part of why this music has fallen out of fashion - electronic pop has gotten cleaner and punchier in production through the 2010s whilst even the heaviest indie rock, while sounding great in isolation, sounds softer compared to e.g. Sophie Xeon-esque percussion due to the limits of recording in meatspace, making it not play alongside other music so well on the radio/streaming, sounds like the mix loses 'power')
Fuck no, dude. Rock takes time, money, and talent to produce. Why bother with that when you have a ponderous backlog of music to sample and an endless supply of schizophrenic negros to mumble over it? Hell, AI will replace the latter soon.
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