Can anyone explain to me where I'm supposed to hear the Celtic Frost influence in this? Kurt claimed it was a major influence on Bleach's sound, but I don't hear any similarity whatsoever.
Can anyone explain to me where I'm supposed to hear the Celtic Frost influence in this...
Just because something has influenced an artist doesn't mean that it's at all present in the sound.
He was known to throw a lot of smokescreens over his real influences.
Like he never ever mentioned Husker Du when it's clear he was influenced by the syncopated rhythm and melodic riffs of that band. And he never said anything about that Yugoslav band he took the riff from About A Girl from.
But he'd keep banging on about Pixies from which he barely took that atmospheric bassline from the verse part in Teen Spirit. And the soft-heavy dynamics.
sounds like garage hardcore punk to me. Green River, Black Flag, Flipper, Wipers, maybe Husker Du, Mudhoney
kurt listens to t&g bands yet gives no mention to tesco or the meatmen
Some of the riffs sound Celtic Frost-esque
he never said anything about that Yugoslav band he took the riff from About A Girl from
I didn't know the Cure is from Yugoslavia
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i think it's a verified fact. the producer of the song showed it to him and it inspired the idea.
No, this is the actual origin
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krist showed him the song it’s plausible
ill give it to you.
Same producer who showed it to Kurt. That’s why billy got mad ‘you stole my guitar sound motherfucker’
Some of the riffs sound Celtic Frost-esque
which ones?
what celtic frost songs does this soundlike?
all these Nirvana threads on the catalog right now
Zoomers turned Nirvana into Anon Babblecore
Am proud
dont be.
nirvana is a great band but this board used to be dedicated to obscure alternative shit. it's pretty much corporate slop centered now. it doesnt reflect well on anyone.
Kurt stole almost all his songs and he felt guilty about it. He had impostor syndrome,
Nirvana were better than most of those obscure alternative acts (the fall)
i was really heartbroken to learn polly was blatantly stollen from the 4skins today.
i always felt that song was genuinely inspired.
Kurt was obsessed with production value
He modeled his albums sound on other albums
Teen Spirit for instance was modeled on The Smithereens sound from their 1 hit wonder album, a fact that is completely obvious to anyone who has listened to both of them
The sound, the balance, the overall feel are what you should listen for, not similar riffs or song construction
Celtic Frost had a very raw sound with lots of separation between the instruments, Nirvana was able to create a similar vibe on Bleach
Yeah the only mention that Teen Spirit's riff sounds like Godzilla is in one of his late diaries.
I think he never mentioned BOC in any interviews as an influence. As I was saying
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Also Rape Me was inspired by a riff from Mudhoney's Need:
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Aneurysm from Fang's An Invitation
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You never heard him talk about Fang did you?
Or about the 4 Skins? Here's Polly's riff:
im not convinced by most of these. the 4skins one is obvious but the others seems like a bit of a stretch.
it makes me feel like shit bros. the one that genuinely hurt was come as you are being a rip off of the killing joke song
inb4 he made it better
he shouldn't have stolen it :(
inb4 they made up over it
he shouldn't have stolen it :(
we need a list of all nirvana songs that are likely based on other songs.
Rape me - mudhoney - need
Come as you are - KJ - eighties
Breed - wipers - potential suicide
SLTS - Godzilla (SP/butch vig?)
Territorial pissings on some husker du or descendents song I forgot
It doesn't really sound like the KJ song
The KJ song is a lot heavier and has different vocals.
He just copied the style of the riff and composed a very different song based on that
Polly: The 4 Skins - On The Streets (Riff)
Been A Son: Zebra - Don't Walk Away (Riff)
Milk It: Melvins - It`s Shoved
Breed: Link Wray - Run Chicken Run (Riff) and >Wipers - Potential Suicide (Riff)
Scentless Apprentice: The Cult - In the >Clouds (Riff) and Jimi Hendrix - Little Miss >Lover (Drums) and Led Zeppelin - When The Levee Breaks (Drums)
Mr. Moustache: Paul Revere & The Raiders - Hungry (Riff)
Endless, Nameless: Butthole Surfers - U.S.S.A (Riff, Vocals) and Jimi Hendrix - I Don't Live Today (Drums)
Very Ape: Los Brujos - Kanishka (Riff)
Mrs. Butterworth: Devo - Too Much Paranoias (Riff)
Big Long Now: The Psychedelic Furs - Sister Europe (Riff)
About A Girl: The Smithereens - Blood And Roses (Riff) or HRAST - PARNI VALJAK (verse chords)
Aneurysm: Fang - An Invitation (Riff)
Token Eastern Song: Green River - Forever Means (Intro)
Radio Friendly Unit Shifter: PIL - Annalisa (Riff, Drums)
Come As You Are: Killing Joke - Eighties (Riff)
Negative Creep: Mudhoney- Sweet Young Thing Ain't Sweet No More (Lyrics)
Smells Like Teen Spirit: Boston - More Than A Feeling (Riff) Pixies Gouge away (verse bass), Tame
Scoff: The Knack - My Sharona (Drums)
Heart Shaped Box: Butthole Surfers - Bar B Q Pope
there are more but I don't have time
worth noting that all these songs are worse than the ones Cobain wrote, so he turned some wacky good ideas into something much more melodic and catchy. still he took some elements from those songs, that was the starting point
yeah nirvana sounded considerably different than other alt/post-hc bands. Even Wipers - Is This Real, Fugazi 13 songs and Pixies Surfer Rosa aren’t super close to nevermind
Celtic Frost influence in this?
lol wut
big maybe but The Cure is way more famous and more likely Kurt would have heard this album. Think The Cure stole it from that Yugo band?
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All scenarios are possible. Novoselic had a very large collection of music at home, it's possible he had some Yugo albums too.
Though I agree maybe the Cure's song is a more likely influence. Or maybe The Smithereens's Blood And Roses from 1986.
and the melodies he sang? guitar riff only matter that much
it's sludgier celtic frost riffs with beatles melodies
Rape Me
It's literally just a rip off of his own song, Teen Spirit. Has nothing to do with Mudhoney.
Dave Grohl freely admits the drum intro part was stolen from Funkadelic's Knee Deep
Dave Grohl freely admits the drum intro part was stolen from Funkadelic's Knee Deep
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You can hear the same vocal style used on Pixies Caribou, during its chorus, in Nirvana's Tourette's.
Might be too general to say it came directly from the Pixies though.
Art has always evolved from its inspirations, but where do you draw the line?
>Come As You Are: Killing Joke - Eighties (Riff)
Eighites was inspired by The Damned's Life Goes On. There's other songs that precedent Nirvana and TKJ which use the same riff, or something similar.
Not sure about Nirvana's other songs.
Dave Grohl freely admits the drum intro part was stolen from Funkadelic's Knee Deep
Eighties wasn't inspired by Life Goes On. Pick up a guitar and you will understand why.
Funkadelic freely admits the drum intro part was stolen from Dave Grohl's Broken Knee
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Art has always evolved from its inspirations, but where do you draw the line?
well you shouldn't just blatantly steal a riff like that. at least change a few notes or something
Hands down the BEST Nirvana longplayer
Celtic Frost influence
wat
Thanks for saying it a second time an hour later