/classical/

Bruckner Edition

youtube.com/watch?v=peNHwWVuID0

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

How do I get into classical?

This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
pastebin.com/NBEp2VFh

Don't NEED anything other than 'zart.

Bruckner's "Hitler Movement"

What are the most liminal composers?

who doesn't love a good 'zart

Rachmaninov.

youtube.com/watch?v=CRbBFKZymN0

What do you mean by liminal?

Not a single Kraut on my top 10

1 Chopin

2 Ravel

3 Tchaikovsky

4 Debussy

5 Prokofiev

6 Liszt

7 Dvorak

8 Verdi

9 Grieg

10 Gershwin

Debussy

The bussy? LMFAO

youtube.com/watch?v=DnisyzCb4nA

He took great care over the Tarnhelm theme: … . It should not be unduly drawn out; nevertheless it must have the character of a melody conceived as an adagio. In those twilit harmonies one felt the presence of a mysterious spirit-world; it was as though for a moment the eternal silence of the very basis of existence was beginning to resound of its own volition – all the more appalling therefore the fiendish and vehement energy which infuses Alberich’s mockery (in a general way and in the accentuation) – the mockery of a malignant and at the same time base and common nature consumed by lust for power.

thanks wagnersister

he means he browses reddit

We don't accept blasphemy here.

Based beyond belief.
Reddit

It doesn't really get more reddit than refusing the best music that exists for the sake of internet points

we've gone over this

non-reddit

machaut ockeghem lassus morales josquin gesualdo monteverdi buxtehude bach handel haydn mozart schubert beethoven wagner brahms mahler bruckner schoenberg berg webern

reddit

vivaldi chopin rachnaminoff shostakovich tchaikovsky debussy any and all American composers puccini verdi dvorak bizet berlioz and video game and movie sountrack composers

doesn't get more Anon Babble than whining about something more successful

Don't think Dvorak deserves that, especially for the 7th/8th, Requiem, Cello Concerto.
Yeah you caught me I'm on Anon Babble

Mendelssohn

youtube.com/watch?v=vbz1JqDdCmg

On his third tour to Israel in 1953, Heifetz included the Violin Sonata by Richard Strauss in his recitals. At the time, many considered Strauss and a number of other German intellectuals Nazis, or at least Nazi sympathizers, and Strauss works were unofficially banned in Israel along with those of Richard Wagner. Despite the fact that the Holocaust had occurred less than ten years earlier and a last-minute plea from Ben-Zion Dinur, the Israeli Minister of Education, the defiant Heifetz argued, "The music is above these factors … I will not change my program. I have the right to decide on my repertoire." In Haifa his performance of the Strauss sonata was greeted with applause, however in Tel Aviv it was followed by dead silence.

Heifetz was attacked after his recital in Jerusalem outside his hotel by a young man who struck Heifetz's violin case with a crowbar, prompting Heifetz to use his bow-controlling right hand to protect his priceless violins. The attacker escaped and was never found. The attack has since been attributed to the Kingdom of Israel militant group. The incident made headlines and Heifetz defiantly announced that he would not stop playing the Strauss. Threats continued to come, however, and he omitted the Strauss from his next recital without explanation. His last concert was cancelled after his swollen right hand began to hurt. He left Israel and did not return until 1970.

based

youtube.com/watch?v=xHPZ-_X2lJk

based except that piece isn't really that great. I'll check it out again though, maybe my opinion will change.

What to listen to...

Any lieder fans? barbara bonney <3
youtube.com/watch?v=7TcYNZVrYFE&list=OLAK5uy_mwSaVNk-0xbUXem0bPB2aZecErOIFUtXk&index=3

Not many of today's leading singers can manage the transition from opera stage to lieder recital with the grace and undiminished charisma of Barbara Bonney. The American lyric soprano is a marvelous interpreter of Mozart and Strauss and has also recorded compelling accounts of Schumann. Yet even within the realm of the art song, Bonney shows remarkable versatility. Diamonds in the Snow is a deliciously performed, thoroughly engaging compilation of Scandinavian songs by Grieg, Sibelius, Stenhammar, and others. These songs are for the most part simply structured and direct. Yet Bonney's emotional connection and her outstandingly focused tone and shading invariably paint a convincing and intimate atmosphere. She sings the familiar melody of "Solveig's Song" from Grieg's Peer Gynt with a uniquely moving blend of purity and poignancy. The beauty of another Grieg song, "Dereinst, Gedanke mein"--which features a hauntingly repeated "Tristan chord"--is so intense that you don't want to let go of the mood it evokes, while Bonney displays a girlish charm in "Lauf der Welt" and Sibelius's "Vilse." Acclaimed opera conductor Antonio Pappano is a deeply sensitive partner at the keyboard; he gives the rippling accompaniment, for example, to the Sibelius's "Sav, sav, susa" its full measure of suspense and doom. Listening to the whole disc is as pleasurable as sipping white wine before a winter fire. --Thomas May

We just had another good Aryan Art thread:
I'm going to highlight a few finds that were shared in the thread today.

I discovered that Sibelius had a set of impromptus that are basically the best ones since Schubert's of 70 years earlier, prove me wrong:

Johan Julius Christian Sibelius (Hämeenlinna, Province of Häme, Grand Duchy of Finland, Russian Empire 1865-1957 Järvenpää, Uusimaa Province, Republic of Finland)
(Folke Gräsbeck)
6 Impromptus, Op. 5 - 1893, No. 1 in G minor
youtube.com/watch?v=bxgsiryJeUg
6 Impromptus, Op. 5 - 1893, No. 2 in G minor
youtube.com/watch?v=ViGa3tRgQhA
6 Impromptus, Op. 5 - 1893, No. 3 in A minor
youtube.com/watch?v=OoszaJvogbc
6 Impromptus, Op. 5 - 1893, No. 4 in E minor
youtube.com/watch?v=0Zb-AcV4O7c
6 Impromptus, Op. 5 - 1893, No. 5 in B minor
youtube.com/watch?v=5QjW47S71kY
6 Impromptus, Op. 5 - 1893, No. 6 in E Major
youtube.com/watch?v=rdgAzrz3e6k

Next we had a decent recording of Danse Macabre:

Charles-Camille Saint-Saëns (Paris, Kingdom of France 1835-1921 Algiers, French Algeria, French Republic)
(Marika Fältskogh, Malmö Symphony Orchestra, Marc Soustrot)
Danse macabre, Op. 40 - 1874
youtube.com/watch?v=E7ENewmvP4A

Then a good Rachmaninoff recording:

Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff (Semyonovo, Novgorod Governorate, Russian Empire 1873-1943 Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.)
(Hilary Macnamara, Howard Shelley)
Suite No. 2 for two pianos, Op. 17 - 1901, 1st Movement (Introduction. Alla marcia)
youtube.com/watch?v=TJOKl-xMdP0
Suite No. 2 for two pianos, Op. 17 - 1901, 2nd Movement (Valse. Presto)
youtube.com/watch?v=aW_TcS1jZcY
Suite No. 2 for two pianos, Op. 17 - 1901, 3rd Movement (Romance. Andantino)
youtube.com/watch?v=yU024j2__RQ
Suite No. 2 for two pianos, Op. 17 - 1901, 4th Movement (Tarantelle. Presto)
youtube.com/watch?v=pbWpNr-_heU

Woah, calm down with the effort-posting man. *people might get annoyed*

Then we had this French piano concerto, this is the first good recording of this piece that I have found. It is definitely the best French piano concerto of the 20th century that I know of, and the best French piano concerto that wasn't written by Saint-Saens as far as I know:

Jules Émile Frédéric Massenet (Montaud, Loire, Kingdom of France 1842-1912 Paris, French Republic)
(Stephen Coombs, BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra, Jean-Yves Ossonce)
Piano Concerto in E-Flat Major - 1902, 1st Movement (Andante moderato – Allegro non troppo)
youtube.com/watch?v=eBybqRh-Fk0
Piano Concerto in E-Flat Major - 1902, 2nd Movement (Largo)
youtube.com/watch?v=VnVDhX_ye-4
Piano Concerto in E-Flat Major - 1902, 3rd Movement (Airs slovaques. Allegro)
youtube.com/watch?v=uuuD1hwSQvA

We finished off with the Granados trio, it was very hard to find a good recording of this piece, everyone seems to bungle it.

Pantaleón Enrique Joaquín Granados y Campiña (Lleida, Province of Lleida, Kingdom of Spain 1867-1916 The ferry SS Sussex, English Channel)
(LOM Piano Trio)
Piano Trio, Op. 50 - 1894, 1st Movement (Poco allegro con espressione)
youtube.com/watch?v=QCewfP5MauY
Piano Trio, Op. 50 - 1894, 2nd Movement (Scherzetto)
youtube.com/watch?v=uKhbds_sQBc
Piano Trio, Op. 50 - 1894, 3rd Movement (Duetto)
youtube.com/watch?v=IKlKZj11NK0
Piano Trio, Op. 50 - 1894, 4th Movement (Finale)
youtube.com/watch?v=4QCg4Tdidzs

Next, here are the links to our expanding selection of pastebins.
Aryan Art thread archive:
pastebin.com/fSwJAWUS
Music Archive:
pastebin.com/NW0BruEd
Ries Archive:
pastebin.com/VP6vwpaB
Saint-Saens Archive:
pastebin.com/hcKpcYTB
Sarasate Archive:
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Dvorak Archive:
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thanks wignat sister

much appreciated wignat sister

yt links

effort posting

?

I hate music
youtube.com/watch?v=7g4OMe7gC9o

hyperfixating on the specific long dissolved empire that some c-tier forgotten composer is from is “effortposting” apparently

No worries, I already did the effort-posting on Anon Babble, /classical/ is just getting the hand-me-downs until I find the time to run a separate /Aryan Classical/ thread on Anon Babble

Shame Karajan didn't record the complete versions of Tchaikovsky's ballets. Man, those would be so, so good under his baton performed by the BPO.

now playing

start of Martinu: Symphony No. 1, H. 289
youtube.com/watch?v=kgD6Rcz5ekE&list=OLAK5uy_kNbQadnJDgPT5fFAMZLgXQ6_uSoQMFK4g&index=2

start of Martinu: Symphony No. 2, H. 295
youtube.com/watch?v=TXvhnSKhtqw&list=OLAK5uy_kNbQadnJDgPT5fFAMZLgXQ6_uSoQMFK4g&index=6

start of Martinu: Symphony No. 3, H. 299
youtube.com/watch?v=kSNUo-2XB8I&list=OLAK5uy_kNbQadnJDgPT5fFAMZLgXQ6_uSoQMFK4g&index=9

youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kNbQadnJDgPT5fFAMZLgXQ6_uSoQMFK4g

Neumann brings warmth and élan to the symphonies. In the First Symphony there is a trace of harshness on the strings. Generally however the recording leans towards warmth and atmosphere rather than to transparency of detail. This works well most of the time and is well suited to the soundwashes of the Sixth. Number Four, which is an exemplar of plangent and luminous orchestration, is lovingly advocated by engineers, players and conductor.

This Supraphon is not a fashionable choice and its presence on your shelves may draw quizzical looks but try defying fashion and you will find this a rewarding and persuasive companion.

thanks wignat sister

That's a surprisingly good Anon Babble thread.

We've had them every Sunday for almost 6 years:
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thanks wignat sisters

youtube.com/watch?v=-EOJ3yTJaNY
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