The more I learn about music production and composition the less I can't listen anything but bach

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Bach is insanely formulaic and robotic, it's like the seedy Berlin club's Techno of classical

Only if you're the kind of composer who can't write music that actually resonates and is entirely superficial.

Interesting

But even then, the bible shows that the art that is made as offer to God, can't be nothing but good and pure.

So it's not good and pure like it pretends to be? Well that's good, because it sounds like it's trying so hard to be that it must actually suck. Good to know I was right to hate it.

It's not about that.

Have you evern seen christian art?
How even a crappy internet photo you feel nothing but something eternal and buried into our mental subconcious, and archetype?

the music of God is not mean to be enjoyed by souls that are still on the teenage years of their soul progression.

Have you evern seen christian art?

Yeah, it's empty, disgustingly vapid stuff like Thomas Kinkade who people rightly hate for giving them the creeps with how warm and fuzzy his work is trying to be. Bach's music is just like that. It has no emotion whatsoever. It's completely inane and sounds like it was written by someone who has never felt emotion once in their life. I despise it.

You have been tainted by the evil and dirt of a world controlled by the 13th tribe.

Your soul is filled with sin and evil.

youtube.com/watch?v=mGQLXRTl3Z0

Seeing something pure, repulses your soul, because you're spiritually dirty.

A demon hates christ because it burns, like how a vampire hates the sun light because it burns his body and destroys him.

I would be worried about this, eternal damnation is not a joke, and all the commdemned only wish to be in your shoes to ask for forgiveness.

The vissions of eternal suffering showns to many people are real anon.
You should ask for forgiveness now that you have the chance.

Worse than man made horrors of eternal suffering awaits to those unfit to be harvested by the book of life.

yeah, bach was really known for his production

What you just wrote exemplifies the problem with Christian art regardless of the medium. Conflict is what makes art. Christians are incapable of showing conflict because they see it as sinful, so all of their art is empty and vapid - "pure," as you would say. If you listen to the work of Debussy, Rachmaninoff, Ravel, Gershwin, or anybody else who makes actual works of art and see it as evil, then you are too far gone.

the more I learn about music production the more I can appreciate even masive flops if I notice someone put effort behind them

that's bad christian art.

The entirely of the bible is the eternal conflict between the forces of God and Lucifer, and how this king of this reality is lucifer.

Revelations literally is about the final battle where the serpent will be cast into the pit of fire.

Well now you're saying something completely different, and even if that is what you believe, Bach's music fails to depict a conflict of any kind, which is why his music sounds awful to me.

The realms of the mortal is where only evil and suffering lies.

youtube.com/watch?v=kK5AohCMX0U

The highest realms where the saints and angelic beings reside there's not evil, neither suffering.

You seem to be confused with evil being a diferent cathegory from good.
There's not evil or conflict or suffering.
It's all part of the same reality, just like cold is the same as hot.

Evil is simply the oposide side of Good, but good can't exist without something that isn't good.

but at the same time, good can exist in pure evil and pure evil can exist in Good.

Lucifer was created as the most perfect of beings, equal some say as Jesus, the son of the father, only for him to become the adversary of the will of the father and the son.

Even lucifer is under the will of the holy spirit, for as him is nothing but a mere tool the divinity uses to create meaning into human lifes and create the drama of the story of Job.

woah I thought the trend of 16 year olds larping as trad catholics died in 2019

Well none of this esoteric mysticism you're spewing justifies how completely vapid Bach's music sounds.

bach can only be understood by composers and players, not the commoners.

A decent composer would know how trite and inane Bach's music sounds.

he's just into religious propaganda, he's justify farts if they were incorporated into religious hymns

you clearly have no historical understanding neither the theoretical knowledge to appreciate bach.

youtube.com/watch?v=UNgrH8u-IIc

Just like how kid claims that college PHD math is a nonsense and boring and lame.

I'm not christian.
It just the more I study the more I end up finding religion in the most deep elements of art.

The deepert you go into drawing, painting, wrtiting, composing, the less you are into technique but just into theology.

At some point art becomes, when you have two decades studying it, it becomes just occult and theology.

Music simply devolves at some point into a magical system to conjure numerological siphils into the malkutian cube reality.

I actually now just realized that music is nothing more but the magical expression of the dances of syphils summoned by the numerological meaning of the work.

I think you're just tone deaf and your reasons for liking music have nothing to do with the music itself. So you're basically guessing what is and isn't good based on context.

meds

The biggest geniuses of music, people that are on the highest ranks of talent, were also bach fans.

Mozart, beethoven, and plenty of less classical masters and even XX century composers from metal and pop were students of his works.

Again, bach is not a composer for the commoner, but a teacher of composition for other musicians.

Bach is the teacher upon the last 200 years of composers have learned from directly or indirectly.

maybe not.

But to learn to make bread, you have to learn from a teacher.

Bach is the teacher, the source of the last 200 years of music.

When someone improves on what a lesser composer did in the past, that doesn't improve the music they're pulling from. Flour is required to make bread but no one wants to eat pure flour.

Every classical composer as famous as Bach influenced people. You're using this fact to justify his music because his music alone is something that you can't justify, I think because you're tone deaf and can't distinguish good music from bad.

you seem to missunderstand.

my point is the more I learn, the deeper I get, the more I improve, the more I just found bach at the end of everything.

That's my point.

You're simply frustrated by his music, because you don't understand it.

I've been playing and writing music for nearly twenty years but that isn't why Bach sucks. He sucks because his music expresses no real emotion. You would have to be bipolar and suffering from mania in order to truly understand his music.

you lack wisdom.

bro.
i just realized that music is nothing more than numerology to invoke syphids.
art is simply a magical system to invoke syphids, whether they are angelic or demonic.
what we hear when we listen to music are invocations of numerology. the same with drawing, they are numerological meanings but expressed geometrically.
that's why bach's music sounds special.
they are the effects of his music having a mathematical meaning.
the same with the great paintings.
and the same with shakespeare's poetry.
that's their secret.
I don't know but this changes everything, kek.
It's like discovering the fundamental code of art.
It's the eternal biblical conflict.
That's the code of the art of the great geniuses.
we go back to the bible, the bible deals with that conflict practically from the first chapter to the end of the apocalypse.
the bible is only a reflection of a journey, which can be the reflection of a whole life of a people, humanity, but also the journey of a single human being's life.
in the bible is everything, the philosophical code of mere reality.

The reason why you think that music can be reduced to numbers is that you can't hear music and have to judge it based on something else.

You're guessing what is and isn't good based on external factors because you have no ear for music.

you're a kid that struggles with multiplication tables trying to argue about the math of a massive LLM.

hopefully you can start studying music theory to a point where you can trully see what music is about.

The kid can only see the magical trick and just experience that, and then claim learning psychology is dumb and you can't reduce magical tricks to just pyschology.

The trouble is, all those math problems result in music that is completely mindless and vapid. Bach's work is as musical as a piece of furniture. It's architecture, not music. All music may be architecture in one sense, but it can't be that alone, or else it will sound like Bach.

Bach is not more of a chair as a gothic cathedral and notre dames are mere "architecture".

As silly as calling the sixtine chappel, a "church" or "furniture"

list this.

youtube.com/watch?v=oRRZflp9k8I

The fact is, it isn't musical. Math may be one element of music, true, but so is sound. You can't have one of these elements and have that alone result in something powerful, it has to do more than that. There is a notion that heaven is nothing but hell without fire. You're in a place that you can never leave, surrounded by sickening white hallways and people who only made it there by turning their brains off and believing something ridiculous in spite of everything. That is what Bach's music feels like to me. Fake, ingenuine happiness with no friction, no conflict. That's the problem with his music. At no point in my life have I felt the emotion that his music tries to elicit, and I'm glad.

you don't understand heaven, because you haven't seen hell.

youtube.com/watch?v=nEx6TjgdAWg

You're simply in eternal soma, unaware of both good and evil.
Spiritual mediocirty.

You wont be able to desire heaven if you haven't see what lies at the bottom of human experience.

You're not afraid of hell, because you haven't experienced, even if by mere pale imitation what lies at the abyss.

You have no fucking clue who I am or what I've experienced, and guessing about it won't suddenly make Bach's music sound good.

We live in a rich and wealthy era, and we're just unaware of the depth of suffering that has existed on this planet.
That's why the spiritual mediocre scoffs at the idea of the salvation.
Why someone that hasn't experienced what is true starvation and thirst, gonna do when he experiences something like the words of spiritual wisdom spoken by sophia?
He's never experienced hunger, so why should he cares about not feeling something he has never experienced.
Why should I care about salvation from eternal suffering if I've never seen what lies in hades?
It's pointless to teach such people something they haven't experienced.

MOO DENG

So you've given up defending Bach's shitty music and just want to make inaccurate assumptions about my life? If so then this conversation is over. You're an idiot. If you're any older than sixteen then you have a serious problem.

he's having a psichotic episode, schizos usually go through these epiphany phases all the time, they think they've discovered some deep truth and religious or spiritual dimension in very mundane stuff
I'm half convinced the old founders of religions were schizos non treated and with good social skills but people have built mythos around them.