*casually drops the best DnB album of it's time*
*refuses to elaborate*
*casually drops the best DnB album of it's time*
Jesus Christ. He looks so fucking stupid.
The best stuff on Earthling is the non drum and bass, more straight forward industrial leaning music like Seven Years in Tibet, Dead Man Walking, I'm Afraid of Americans. If he stayed in that lane he would have made one of his best albums
He was stupid
Bionicle copied this
Let's see what you look like
Only retards who never listened to more than 3 dnb albums would claim something as retarded as this
Nothing on earthling is drum and bass. It’s the exact same schmaltzy songwriter pop he’d always done with some trendy studio tricks slapped on.
What do you mean how is Little Wonder You, Battle for Britain, Telling Lies, etc... not dnb?
It wasn’t made by 1 or 2 guys on an amiga to be pressed on vinyl for DJs to use in clubs. It was made by an aging pop star who saw what the former were doing and told his team to put some of what that sounded like onto his next batch of groaning 70s pop ballads.
No offense but that's stupid, it's got drum and bass instrumentals on it which means it's drum and bass. It doesn't have to mean that it's good, it's not embarrassing for a 50 year old Bowie, or that you have to like it
Maybe as a secondary genre label. Obviously directed by a casual observer of dnb who was not seriously involved, especially considering where the sound was headed at the time
some cool hits
the rest is filler
He was a pop artist after all.
Also the best d'n'b album is Timeless.
Honestly impressive how he went from the biggest artist in the world to dropping irredeemable horsecrap for the next 20 years at the drop of a hat
The last twenty years of his career were not worse than few five years of it.
Most of what was in between is garbage and a solemn warning for future artist to never take cocaine.
His real artistic peak was well before Let's Dance (which is still pretty shit by the way) during the mid to late 70s
during the early to mid 70s
ftfy
Great album that I have as his #4 of all time but Low and Station are better
Also the best d'n'b album is Timeless.
It's actually Torque.
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This album really just chugs along compared to what they did on wormhole. The technology remix that was on rollcage absolutely murders tho.
EARTHLINGS
ON FIYERRR
That same Boymerang remix of Technology was on the mix CD version of Torque but not on the LP version, which kind of makes sense since it is probably the best track on the whole label and contender for best D&B tune ever.
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This album really just chugs along compared to what they did on wormhole. The technology remix that was on rollcage absolutely murders tho.
How so? Torque had impeccable drum programming on it, Wormhole sacrificed that for more funky sounding synths and I prefer the drums which is why I like Torque more.
Also Stakka & Skynet - Clockwork is as good as Ed Rush & Optical - Wormhole but not talked about as much for some reason.
Those two are where it all went down.
Just watch his music videos dvd, "be my wife" is where it all turned into shit until Fashion, Jump They Say, and everything after that was surprisingly good as well. My guess is he gave up cocaine (probably turned to extasy instead)
Diamond Dogs are surprisingly good, but nothing of it is on this dvd.
You must be kidding, kiddo
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Definitely not.
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Timeless can't decide what it wants to be, is it Jazz, is it Jungle, is it something new or something in between. Torque is pure D&B machine music the likes of which hardly anyone could better.
It largely comes down to who you think are the better producers. Timeless despite being Goldie's album was engineered by Rob Playford, 4 Hero and Dillinja. Torque was engineerd by Nico, Ed Rush, Optical, Fierce and Trace. All of those are heavyweight names but the guys on Torque are probably just a little more talent than the engineers on Timeless.
Timeless can't decide what it wants to be, is it Jazz, is it Jungle
It is pure jungle, it doesn't have a single jazz note.
is it something new or something in between.
It was totally new when it came out. It still is. Truly timeless.
Torque is pure D&B machine music the likes of which hardly anyone could better.
Probably our souls work on different frequencies. I only hear some soulless standards.
Dnb and jungle should be considered two different genres. But then hardcore is at least two different genres and not many people seem to care.
Dnb and jungle should be considered two different genres
I don't think anyone doubts this though. For me the Jungle I like is Ragga Jungle like Bizzy B, Remarc, Soundmurderer & SK-1, late Krome & Time and from modern guys people like Kid Lib and Tim Reaper. The D&B I like is predominantly Techstep/early Neurofunk before it got weird, like Ed Rush & Optical, Photek, Bad Company, Trace, Stakka & Skynet, Dom & Roland and from modern guys people like Presha.
Timless too me falls into the real of being more melodic, kind of like T. Power (before he teamed up with Shy FX), 4 Hero (after their early Hardcore stuff but before they started doing Broken Beat stuff), Klute and Omni Trio (admittedly, my favourite producer ever). I like it but it's not the kind of D&B that I would say is either the best or the most technical, but I wouldn't call it bad either.
One of my favourite tapes, pure darkness but without getting into that over produced Neurofunk era of D&B.
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I think it’s largely a matter of context. Torque sounded like an almost reiterative culmination of the dnb sound at the time while wormhole dropped at the apex of the shift to the current 2 step dnb format, really solidifying it IMO. The sound was faster and darker, perfect for MCs and double drops at the rave. Probably just a matter of preference but wormhole was definitely more important on the dnb timeline.
Team of white guys make overproduced critic-pandering elevator music snorefest in an attempt to prove drum n bass is a serious musical artform and slap the title credit on an absolute mong who had nothing to do with making the record
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Ah right I get what you mean. Yes Torque was like s refining of the sound and Wormhole was the evolution. I like early Neuro too and even some stuff from the late 00s, but I hate how it currently sounds.
There was only white guy producer on Timeless. Although I think he produced half of the album.
Little Wonder You
That's exactly a pop melody set on the edgiest EDM beats you could come up with back in those times (squeaks and bleeps galore)
Scaruffi was half right about Bowie, he was always a bit of a charlatan. Though he did write some good tunes too
That's exactly a pop melody set on the edgiest EDM beats you could come up with back in those times
You're so clueless it hurts. Those rhythms were not used in pop music before him, it was some niche rage at that time maybe as much as it is today.
best DnB album of it's time
lol no, that washed up old pedo couldn't compete with pic related
what was that album?
Scaruffi actually seemed to enjoy Bowie's industrial period, or at least for his standards since Outside and Earthling got 6/10 and 6.5/10
The surprises continued with Earthling (Virgin, Jan 1997), another meticulously refined album overflowing with inspiration, an increasingly unusual thing for a character who in the 70s had lived on a few clumsy ideas squeezed to the point of nausea. What revitalized him was above all the drum'n'bass production technique, which underlies the sophisticated and complex scores of Little Wonder , Battle for Britain and Telling Lies . If I'm Afraid Of Americans tends to replicate his old show, the acid psychodrama of Looking for Satellites presents a much more mature artist. On the border between rhythm and blues, B-series soundtracks and industrial music, Seven Years in Tibet is the first song to revive the thrills of Warszawa , and one of the peaks of his career (and still a number worthy of NIN). The aggressive disco-music à la KMDFM of Dead Man Walking crowns the sonic prodigy. This is simply the same Bowie as Ziggy Stardust , with the same tunes, simply re-orchestrated for a new generation. But the orchestration makes the difference: Ziggy 's was pompous, dull, retro; in short, all on the surface. Earthling 's , lean and cubist, is all underground, psychological. Bowie's resurrection is nothing short of miraculoua
you shut your stupid ignorant whore mouth about bowie
Chimp out in a stone age daydream oh yeah