/cmg/ - Country Music General (Origins Edition)

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/cmg/ - Country Music General (Origins Edition)

Welcome to /cmg/ y'all, Anon Babble's home for the greatest genre of music on the planet: country music.
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Please use this thread to discuss country music and all of its related genres, including bluegrass, jamgrass, outlaw country, Red Dirt country, country-rock, folk, alternative country, and many more.

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Feel free to drop any recommendations below, no matter the subgenre (but please do attach subgenres to it!). I am in the long and intermittent process of compiling updated recommendation charts, so your contributions will be very appreciated.

What have y'all been spinning lately?

Country music is White music and I'm tired of people saying black people invented it.

To say its exclusively black or white is to reduce country to one sound. Just as the bluegrass from the appalachians is a very white sound, the blues from the mississppi delta is incredibly black, and both are massive influences in country music to this very day. Country itself describes traditional music that got created by the average working american within their own cultural centers, and so there's so many sounds that fall under the country umbrella that it can't really be claimed by any one race.

my favorite country song is the one with the lyrics that go "truck chuch beer church truck girls guitar beer cold beer truck beer girl truck church sunday tractors church" yaknow what I mean?

Americans in general are so fucking race obsessed that they group ethnic and National groups into mono cultural categories while being blind to American cultures own unique riches and heritage. There’s a reason Americans constantly reject their own cultural heritage while the rest of the world picks up the flac, jazz got a huge scene in Asia and Europe but is practically non-existent in the US now because Americans don’t see it as their own unique musical movement but simply “old music”. That’s why you’re gonna see people latch onto country as “white music” while only praising the most banal pop-rock disguised as country instead of engaging with the musics genuine history and musical qualities in a deeper level.

Take your meds and quit your unhinged baseless whining. Jazz is still a thing, it just went in a different direction with fusion genres and "Zappa-esque" shit like Geese

Those are bastardizations of the genre which only continue to exist because of the Nashville content machine. If you want some examples of good country that actually respects the genre, we've got a lot of charts made now for a wide variety of sounds
Its a shame but its not like quality country is dead in America. Just like any genre, the best selling stuff is usually not the most poignant or best at showcasing the genre's true depth. There's always going to be the people who just choose what's the easiest sound to like and that will always be the music that is artifically pumped out en masse, but there's also the people who do love the genre and take the time to identify quality works, which ideally is who this general is for. Though it would be neat to get a Jason Aldean fan in here to pick his brain

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If you want some examples of good country that actually respects the genre, we've got a lot of charts made now for a wide variety of sounds

I understand this anon, but I also don't consider folk/bluegrass the same as "country music" to me country music IS the Nashville machine.

Sounds like you need to reassess your definition of country music.

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Been listening to these guys for years and I STILL lose the downbeat on "Boll Weevil", but that just adds to the fun.

bluegrass from the appalachians is a very white sound

Brought straight over from the British Isles.

the blues from the mississppi delta is incredibly black

Made by American blacks attempting to play the music which they were hearing around them, from American whites.

Bluegrass is a neotraditional amalgamation of white scotch-irish appalachian folk sounds with modern blues and jazz, and that's paraphrasing directly from Bill Monroe himself. Even bluegrass isn't exclusively black or white.

Shut the fuck up

You can have your own opinion but just know it's completely wrong and stupid

The banjo came from Africa.

me country music IS the Nashville machine.

Waylon agreed with you but found another way...

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I think George Strait shoulders most of the blame for inventing modern buttcountry especially that cliched vocal intonation that everyone adopted.

American blacks attempting to play the music which they were hearing around them

completely ignores the west african influence

try a book.

this thread needs some Junior Brown. A national treasure
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And the slide guitar came from Hawaii but nobody ever says Country is Hawaiian

Country newbie here. What else do I listen after Hank Williams?

Slim Cessna's Auto Club

are you really coping this hard? lol. Blues musicians simultaneously started using things to slide across the strings at the same time and its origins can be traced back to similar stylings in west africa. The diddly bow was a one stringed instrument brought from africa with the slaves that traditionally used something to slide across the strings. Kekuku's invention of the steel guitar in Hawaii was certainly an influence on early 20th century blues dudes...but the idea of sliding things across a string intrument was not invented by him

As for the banjo- early african Americans were playing a lot of banjo and influencing whites. in the 1830s whites would put on black face and play the banjo and sing "black songs"

To suggest that early African American musicians took no musical influences from their homeland is truly a retarded suggestion.

The slaves didn't have instruments
The blacks making music in the US were born in the US and probably barely had any of their old heritage in Africa taught to them

George Jones

The slaves didn't have instruments

you cant be this retarded. are you?

Marty Robbins Gunfighter Ballads & Buck Owens

His picking is incredible. First heard about him when my dad showed me Freedom Machine. Dude's style is hypnotic
I'm surprised to hear someone else say this because I honestly think George Strait is pretty overrated but everyone where I'm from worships the ground he walks on. He really did champion the whole phenomenon of turning country into a persona and stroking yourself off about it.
At this point it's bait or you're a tourist who can't talk about heritage without creating a narrative about racial inferiority. If you actually felt so strongly about how bluegrass "belongs" to the whites, prove it. Where's your musical contribution to the heritage you allegedly have so much claim to? Surely you must be practiced in it.
If you like that old style check out Charley Crockett, Theo Lawrence, Melissa Carper. Support the artists that are alive and well and still making the sounds, these guys are really good for that classic country sound
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I love starting a shitstorm to drive engagement on the thread.

damn i guess you really did enjoy the theo lawrence rec lol

for those who do a facepalm at Beyonce, just remember that terrible pseudo-country albums by mainstream pop singers go way back

such a good song.

He was always respectful of his elders
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Please kill yourself IRL.

Strugil is that really u

im a big fan will you please come to cotage grove tennesee

I love country music!

My favorite country song? It's the one the goes "truck chuch beer church truck girls guitar beer cold beer truck beer girl truck church sunday tractors church"

I love country music!

My favorite country song? It's the one the goes "truck chuch beer church truck girls guitar beer cold beer truck beer girl truck church sunday tractors church"

i have a personal joke of mine that basically goes "if it sucks, it's country, if it's good, it's folk"

anyways here's a bunch of stuff i listen to, anyone got any recommendations?

I look like this and say this

All of those albums and you don't have any My Morning Jacket?

Listen to The Tennessee Fire right now if you want good atmospheric acoustic folk recorded in a grain silo.

In fact, their first three albums were recorded in one, so the reverb is insane on the vocals. It Still Moves is their masterpiece, but that's more of a country-rock sound and I'm not sure if you'd be into it.

so, i don't hate this band, absolutely gonna listen to it some more, but i'm getting a hit or miss on their stuff being actual country/folk or not.

still listening to It Still Moves as i'm writing this and def into this, it got the same kinda sound as Fleet Foxes.

They definitely switch it up a lot. There are some more rocky sounds throughout that album and their other works, but TTF to me is their album with the most folk songs on it.

I Will Be There When You Die has CRAZY vocals on it

also just found their Rocketman cover, also very good. Acoustic covers in general are something i dig, the Punk Goes Acoustic compilations Fearless Records put out are a good example.

I Will Be There When You Die sounds like an midwest emo song, if more acoustic, which i guess tracks given it's from a 1999 album when that genre was converging