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This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.
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First for absolute Kertész supremacy
How did he do it, bros?
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Who? What? Speak clearly.
He was a genius, simple as.
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start of Dvorak: Concerto pour Violon et Orchestre en Ut Mineur, Op. 53
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start of Dvorak: Piano Trio No. 3 en Fa Mineur, Op. 65
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Some of us think Dvorak is one of the most unjustly neglected composers in all of classical music. This disc seems designed to prove the point. The only concerto we frequently hear by Dvorak is the Cello Concerto, but this masterpiece is just as beautifully written, with equally beautiful melodies and superb construction. Most chamber ensembles seem to think that Dvorak wrote only one Trio, the famous "Dumky." Again, here's an equally great, neglected masterpiece. Plaudits for Isabelle Faust and Harmonia Mundi for putting together this excellent program. And praise for these fine performances. Faust is known as a specialist in modern music, but she gives the Violin Concerto plenty of romantic schmalz. Belohlavek is highly experienced with this music and draws gorgeous playing from his orchestra, which plays with typically Czech beauty of tone. The recording of the Concerto is a bit opaque and lacking in presence but not enough to hinder appreciation of the music. Faust and her colleagues in the Trio play with lots of power and impulse, sweeping us along in a compelling reading of this masterpiece. The unusual coupling and excellent performances earn this disc a recommendation, especially for non-Dvorakians. --Leslie Gerber
Just finished listening to the concerto portion myself and it's stellar. I'm sure the piano trio will be just as good, I mean you can't go wrong with a Faust/Queryas/Melnikov ensemble!
he (onika) it (burgers)
Niggers With Etudes
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Some of us think Dvorak is one of the most unjustly neglected composers in all of classical music.
Yeah man, as neglected as other underdogs such as Brahms and Tchaikovsky
I like Kertesz best too but Rowicki is pretty good if you want a more dramatic and Beethovenian Dvorak.
but I heard the Dvorak Requiem and his rarely played piano concerto in a concert recently.
Very cool, I'm jealous.
Why would one want a more germanised slavic composer?
but Rowicki is pretty good if you want a more dramatic and Beethovenian Dvorak.
Neat, just added it, thanks.
Variety. Same reason sometimes I like hearing Russian conduct Tchaikovsky and sometimes I like hearing Karajan, Muti, Jurowski, Haitink, etc.
Dvorak Souls
Because I'm not a mentally ill slavesister who would lump Dvorak with R*ssian music. Besides, Beethovenian doesn't mean Germanised. Kertesz could also be called 'Germanised' in that his Dvorak is more Schubertian and lyrical.
Czech are both culturally and genetically more related to Germans than Russians. "Slavic" literally only describes language family and nothing else.
R*ssian music.
Faggot spotted
How cocky do you have to be just declare your America's best guitarist-like it's just a fact
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Tchaikovsky was the connoisseur of melodies. I expect that he imagined castles, paintings and nature during his compositions. Listening to a Tchaikovsky piece makes you transition into a different gender. youtu.be
It is better to just kill yourself than remain in such a stagnant and sterile world.
*yourself
Variety
Bastardizing a composer for the sake of variety doesn't seem worth it. Would you listen to Chopin on a '80s synth preset?
Fake it till you make it
Rowicki doesn't bastardise Dvorak.
Would you listen to Chopin on a '80s synth preset?
I play Chopin on my synth keyboard sometimes, it's fun.
t. germanised cucks who can't identify the unmistakeably slavic nature of Dvořák
Stick to Brahms
No, but I enjoy Chopin performed by Lisiecki, Ashkenazy, Freire, and Chochieva, among others, and they're all different.
Dvorak's 7th is literally the canonical Brahms worship symphony.
time to take your pills
Brahms appeals only to longhoused freaks and repressoids. The well-turned out and aristocratic man is naturally repulsed by him as he is by other items of academic bourgeois kitsch. He is the musical equivalent of a stag painting. I'm sure he goes nicely with your fat wife's fish jelly but he cannot speak to the soul of a Caesar.
Might have to start listening to classical on my walks, on the bus, and whenever else I'm in public playing music on my phone. Getting tired of rock/pop.
cool
listening to rock/pop.
lmfao
rock is pop
I passed my organ exam last week. BWV 648 is the hardest piece I can play. That tip and heel action is difficult. Need to learn a fugue. Doing adagio in C for glass harmonica from Mozart because I really like that piece. Next is BWV 578.
I passed my organ exam last week.
Nice, congrats, anon.
If I get a painless and cheap death ticket, I will buy it. This reality is too crazy for me. I hope that in the near future, the Governments start sanctioning euthanasia camps for people with mental health problems.
The well-turned out and aristocratic man
Ty, didn't sleep for a week.
You're right, you SHOULD kill yourselves. Today!
he aped john field, duh
I might have to get my organ examined
Is there an extremely sentimental, romantic Cello sonata? I like Dvorak's a lot, but it's not something you'd swoon and cry over.
Cello has so mcuh sentimental potential, yet sentimentalists only flock to the piano.
Go on...
Cello concerto* BRUH.
Elgar I guess
Weinberg's Fantasia for cello and orchestra & Stanford's Irish Rhapsody no.3 are my favorites.
Thanks, I haven't listened to those. If you've got more recs post em.
My vote goes to Saint-Saëns opp 33 & 119. Schumann's 129 is also really good. I don't think any of these are swoon-and-cry-over material, though, but maybe that's just me being dead inside
Glen Gould CP Bach
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why not just go ahead and post actual snuff
Would anons be interested in filling a survey:
Age
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5 favorite composers
5 favorite classical pieces
When did you start to listen to classical music
Other genres of music you like
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Level of education in music theory/history
Instruments you play, if any
How do you build your library (Spotify, Youtube, Apple Classical, offline library)
What equipment you use to play music (headphones, speakers)
Do you attend live performances?
surveys are for cunts
Sure thing my guy, it's a little off topic though
We should post our favourite artists, penis size, IQ and social security numbers
What's the classical equivalent of penis music
What's penis music, homosexual?
Not clicking that, deviant.
Schoenberg writing what Joe Biden hears inside his head
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I truly despise usanistanis
how do you pronounce Dvorak? i just say D-vorak
Bojak Czechman
If Glenn Gould was born today she would've been an autistic trans girl making electronic music
your gay little country existence is probably dependent on the US be more grateful
It's pronounced Dvorjak like Wojak. Look it up.
Dvjordjak.
It's probably like Drak or something knowing those countries
LMFAO
it's pronounced like Borat
Ok. Probably not actually, cause he didn't really compose that much
"drake" like the american Rappist/composer
Also the US has the largest number of inventions in the world .
true, we would still be in the stone age without the US
the only good wozzeck recording
LOL
LMFAO
Exactly
A random German village probably has more relevant contribution to culture, science and art than the entire USAidstan
cope
I'm not the one coping
i'm noit ebeen anmericman bujt the anmeriuxas havfer vbertter ubvebtrui inbs, you canboty dseny this,.
Illiterate word salad.
he didn't see the secret message
German
Culture
Pick one
Also take out the Jews from Germany and their contributions aren't that great, still mogged massively by the US which leeches of the modern US
Adolf Hitler was right
about this operetta -it's really quite pleasant. Or at least this song is, that's all I've heard from it
you will never write a great late-Romantic string quartet as a Russian POW
you will never teach yourself how to conduct the most difficult modern works and premiere everything form Schoenberg to Xenakis
you will never be immortalized by Elias Canetti as the greatest douchebag of the inter-war Vienna
you will never father like 30 children with 10 different women
your son will never have a relationship with Benjamin Britten
you will never be reviled by orchestras for actually hearing what goes on in contemporary music and insisting they play every note
you will never conduct the fastest, most dramatic Eroica on disc
you will never be Hermann Scherchen
those are way more popular than Brahms
>you will never be File PNG
melody fetishist strikes again
this is a music board
music =/= melody
music = melody
FTFY
interesting... maybe start a soundtrack thread over at or ?
t. unironically jews and nazis
No those are off topic on those boards, music gets discussed on music boards-imagine that
Adolf Hitler was right about this operetta
He was right about many a thing.
What does insuffiently German mean, Satan?
speak on that
it means "not nazi enough"
Spirit of Wagner.
mmuh jews bad
Best sufficiently German conductors?
Bockelmann
Hitler preferred homosexual, married-to-jewess performers like Max Lorenz.
Reality check: Nazis lost, Hitler killed himself like a big fag baby, the Germany's true spirit (piss orgies) reigns supreme, and jews are more powerful than they've ever been. US.A.(jewish summer home) invented trans people, and hip hop.
I will only accept trans people if they give us castrati again.
Anyone can be a castrato, anon
Yes, but with trannies they are more likely to be able to cut off their dick from youth and have it be more socially acceptable
the turks mainlined tranny shit into global politics a milennia ago
dont be mad we decided we earned the right to crusade wherever it shows up
ok tranny
*Castratx
The Germans invented transgenderism
Inside their post-war U.S. labs
boksheviks invented dieing for a lie
No before that
Yes: No before that
no, that was the greatest abrahamic achievement
/classical/ becomes Anon Babble again edition
whats the difference
bolsheviks aren't big on abraham
..."again"?
sounds like something a lying jew would say, can you rephrase this without speaking hebrew?
Only if you stuff three more meaningless buzzwords in that post
"commies are godless"
that simple enough for ya, smoothbrain
imagine not investing in your tribe with every fiber of your being
sounds like a pyramid scheme
"the judeans dont actually believe in our gods"
babylonians circa 3000 years ago
Try Myaskovsky's cello sonatas and cello concerto
I'll give it a peep
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My body is unresponsive. What is going on?! I am confused. Ashamed. Angry. I am enchanted and morphed into a static signal. What is left of life but Scriabin? Where do I find meaning in life if not in Alexander Nikolayevich Scriabin?
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commies are religious hebrews from 3000 years ago
I see, you're mentally ill. I do apologize
Spirituality. Sex. Scriabin.
>>/blogspot/
Diet Wozzeck
is schizophrenia in the room with you right now
cool
Cadences are something that Scriabin refused to employ in his later works, thus leaving the listener unsatisfied. The whole concept of suppressing the climaxes becomes a matter of postponing, instead of achieving a release - a much more powerful experience, according to Scriabin. His Fifth Sonata, for instance, doesn't really have any 'clean' chords, i.e. chords without some sort of an augmented or diminished note attached to them. This creates an illusion of the piece floating in the air, unresolved. Hence the entire work becomes one giant build-up on the verge of a sexual climax lasting around 12 minutes.
switch it up freak
no one cares
speak english
I am done. Done with it all. Done with this existence. I reject what it has to offer. I reject what any of you filthy monkeys, carbon filth, less important than dirt... no, even dirt has more importance than a human, the word "filthy" is itself degraded when attached to such a despicable entity as a human. Even the foulest and irritating bug, a maggot, so to speak, has more worth than a man. Tell me the ways to erode myself. Teach me the method to eviscerate my flesh. Drop my corpse in a sewer so no human can ever touch it again.
I will leave this circus. I will disappear into the realm of waves, where there exist such music... I know there exists a musical chord... a wave that has eluded me for years... I will force that theophany to reveal itself in front of me, to take me and consume me and I... consequently will consume everything.
pass the turing test faggot
no one cares
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start of Malcolm Arnold: Symphony No. 3, Op. 63
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start of Malcolm Arnold: Symphony No. 4, Op. 71
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This is the strongest entry so far in Naxos's Malcolm Arnold cycle. The orchestra, for one, is securely on top of and inside these deceptively difficult scores, yielding little to their Bournesmith (Conifer) and London (Chandos) counterparts, albeit less well recorded. Andrew Penny elicits well-oiled, judiciously balanced section work that heightens Arnold's unabashed melodic appeal and orchestral wizardry. Listeners coming to this composer for the first time await a delicious bargain. --Jed Distler
Scriabin raped your mind.
Glad you enjoyed it like I did!
Should've been more clear, sorry: Speak english *to someone else*
Just take a good look at this filth that is being uttered here. One can only imagine how harsh and solitary life must have been for an artist like Scriabin during his time. Not only was he the Prometheus who brought humanity such groundbreaking and revolutionary music, but he was also a natural force of transcendence. His work evokes deep emotional transformation and spiritual introspection; it inspires you to seek higher understanding, immerse yourself in creative expression, support the arts, and live with honesty and a sense of cosmic harmony. This positive "vibe," imbued in you through Scriabin's rich and mystical music, truly demonstrates how great the Russian was.
permanently triggered victim
incoherent jew says what?
has anyone tried Ashkenazy's Beethoven Piano Sonata cycle? I kinda wanna give it a listen. Any thoughts? also, lol at this opening sentence of a community review on Amazon,
Beethoven, like Bach, should be played as though one was capable of fathering 22 children
kek
you tell me
Beethoven was a manlet and an incel. Good music, though
no one cares
Can still be played with virility and passion though is I think the point
Clair de Lune but played with a bayan
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So can Tchaikovsky. The review is trash.
O_o calm down, muchacho
Not everyone who says something that upsets you is agitated
lol yes but you called a 'review' trash when I only posted the opening, intentionally provocative sentence, which is a hell of a stretch
It's not a stretch if it's true
so do you all just listen to 400 year old french guys playing the harpsichord or what?
what even is classical? can new music be classical?
There are no 400-year-old recordings, silly
Again with this shit? Either lurk more, look it up, or go kill yourself somewhere far away. Actually forget about lurking and googling.
boo hoo crybaby, go stick a flute up your asshole
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Wagner.
1/10
Since sound wave is a naturally occurring phenomena in the universe then chances are that the alien life if there exist any, could possess an analogous organ to the human ear, imagine what would happen if we manage to make contact with the aliens in due time, just what will we show them? A bunch of naked feminists on the streets shouting "feel the nipple" or a furry rally passing through the streets of moscow or a bunch of angry bigotted chuds fighting meaningless battles online? How will we introduce them to our culture?
We will show the aliens true "Human Excellence". Our mastery of art and music. We will show them "Wagner".
This is it. The end. The peak. The Finale.
Hugo Wolf was a student at the time of the 1882 Festival, yet still managed to find money for tickets to see Parsifal twice. He emerged overwhelmed: "Colossal – Wagner's most inspired, sublimest creation." He reiterated this view in a postcard from Bayreuth in 1883: "Parsifal is without doubt by far the most beautiful and sublime work in the whole field of Art."
Gustav Mahler was also present in 1883 and he wrote to a friend; "I can hardly describe my present state to you. When I came out of the Festspielhaus, completely spellbound, I understood that the greatest and most painful revelation had just been made to me, and that I would carry it unspoiled for the rest of my life."
Max Reger simply noted that "When I first heard Parsifal at Bayreuth I was fifteen. I cried for two weeks and then became a musician."
Alban Berg described Parsifal in 1909 as "magnificent, overwhelming,"
and Jean Sibelius, visiting the Festival in 1894 said "Nothing in the world has made so overwhelming an impression on me. All my innermost heart-strings throbbed... I cannot begin to tell you how Parsifal has transported me. Everything I do seems so cold and feeble by its side.That is really something."
Claude Debussy thought the characters and plot ludicrous, but nevertheless in 1903 wrote that musically it was "Incomparable and bewildering, splendid and strong. Parsifal is one of the loveliest monuments of sound ever raised to the serene glory of music."
He was later to write to Ernest Chausson that he had deleted a scene he had just written for his own opera Pelléas et Melisande because he had discovered in the music for it 'the ghost of old Klingsor, alias R. Wagner'.
He was simply the greatest. Wagner for all eternity.
tru
You won't like the answer
No less impressive is Manheit’s account of a meeting with Mahler on 13 February 1883. Shortly before this, Mahler had told him that his father was in poor health. On the 13th, Manheit found the conductor sobbing loudly in the street, his hand- kerchief held to his eyes. Manheit was about to offer him his condolences on the death of his father, but Mahler interrupted him: his father was still alive, but something far worse had happened – Wagner had died. For the next few days no one could speak to him.
what is this, blogger open mic night or what the fuck
lol that's an amusing anecdote, thanks
If you listen to classical music you are either:
Chinese
Homosexual
An adult virgin
The child of extremely rich European parents
A teenager rebelling against your parents who like metal/punk/rock
Some combination of all of the above
wow trans erasure much
we have rezident autists here
well get rid of them
Dear Deutsche Grammphon: What is it with Abbado and Klimt?
jannies wont do shit
i suspect one of the spammers is a janny
why would jannies get rid of their own kind
who up materin they stabat
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I’ve been listening to a lot of Lutheran chorales such as songs from Heinrich Schütz, Andreas Hammerschmidt, Michael Praetorius, Samuel Scheidt, Martin Luther, and others while I read. I have become absolutely enamored with this music. My favorite one would have to be Freude, Freude, grosse Freude.
What other music and artists are there that can be considered in between the renaissance and Bach?
can be considered in between the renaissance and Bach
Anything between 1490 and 1690 can be considered between the renaissance and Bach