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You wish Scriabincel
So let me get this right...
if you're a poorfag all you'll ever be able to afford to play is a piccolo, flute or cymbals
if you're a richfag your parents will pay $50,000 for your double bass or tuba or whatever niche autistic contrabass woodwind you want to learn - but if you ever stop learning you'll be shunned from the family
and if you're somewhere in the middle your parents will beat you over the head that piano or violin are the only valid instruments to learn, but then they can only afford the cheapest second hand instruments
what a mess
You don’t have to buy top of the line stuff
now playing, gonna try Paul Lewis' Beethoven Piano Sonatas cycle if anyone wants to join me, here's the first four pieces of Vol. 4
start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 5 in C Minor, Op. 10 No. 1
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start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 6 in F Major, Op. 10 No. 2
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start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 7 in D Major, Op. 10 No. 3
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start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 15 in D Major, Op. 28 "Pastoral"
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Might also try the cycles by Ashkenazy and Barenboim.
Barenboi was the first person to hold Israeli and Palestinian citizenship
/QUEEN/
I saw one negative Amazon review, which says,
I feel let down that a young performer would seem to have learned nothing from modern scholarship. Lewis plays these early sonatas as though they were written as late romantic pieces.
Jokes on him, that's the exact sound I'm looking for >:)
Modern scholarship.. Hah! What a HIPster. Goes on to say,
For Beethoven and Schubert, I recommend Paul Badura-Skoda on a fortepiano
yikes
She's got a nordic sternness
Modern scholarship? They’re not unearthing the ruins of Troy just read what the fucking composer told you to play in the score
Ugh no thank you
That's a good cycle, though. Badura-Skoda is one of the more good fortepianists.
You say that, but most performers still ignore Beethoven's metronome markings.
Honestly, Scriabin is good but overrated. The dude doesn't finish his melodies. Even when they start off amazing, no cadence means it's forgettable. I guess you have to have an extremely neuoritc personality to enjoy it. I thought I was neurotic, but oh well.
Scriabin is a fucking retard, or rather was. Let me explain. This guy said he was God. OK, whatever. I guess it was in a Theosophic-Hindu kind of way where it's not preposterous to say you are God, or the universe. Nobody cares. This motherfucker was totally ahead of the game harmony-wise. He stretched that motherfucker like nobody else at that time. But he derived all motifs from his disgusting Mystic chord which sounds like ass. Listening to the same disgusting fourths, tritones, and chromatic lines gets boring REALLY quick.
But that's not the worst of it. Absolutely not. The worst thing is, this motherfucker was so retarded, so stuck in the 19th century, that he still wrote sonata form. OK, you say, nothing too crazy about that, but hear me out. This motherfucker not only wrote in sonata form, but he did it in the worst possible way. Every single phrase, every single idea, every single narrative he tried to convey in his fart-smelly music, it all succumbed to formalism. This guy was so retarded he was a grade A formalist. Let me explain. From his first opus to his last, this fucking retard used recurring, and I mean over and over and over again, small-scale formal structures in the form of periods.
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This motherfucker couldn't convey a single shitty idea that he had without using these lazy and fucking boring two four-bar or two eight-bar (and similar) phrases, which he regularly repeated. This is the most infuriating and lazy shit to do in the early 20th century. What the fuck? And this is supposed to be good? Even Wagner of all people had debunked that shit DECADES ago. And this stupid motherfucker used his diarrhea-inducing disgusting harmony and succumbed it to shitty and extremely lazy formalism. Oh and because he wasn't lame enough, he was a fucking symbolist. Yeah cool this motif is about ass farting and that motif is about mother fucking, but dude its meaning is like hidden or whatever, who cares, this is just lame. Scriabin is a fucking retard.
Basically any Scriabin piano piece you can think of would sound better orchestrated or with multiple instruments. Its best to think of the piano as a writing tool for composers-a starting point not an end. Of course there are some rare pieces like Clair De Lune that belong only on the piano and can't be improved
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Yeah, I changed my mind as the work went on. It's actually an excellent recording all around
good morning lisztchads
That picture reeks of souther cone
Terrible. I'm almost certain this is a bait. If not, never make music again.
Firstly, you "found no real correlation" between my claim and the audio clips/score because you're deaf. You don't know what a succession of fourths is supposed to sound like: clean, distinct, with proper voicing and separation. Lettberg smears them, collapses the texture, and loses the entire point of those moments. But I suppose if you're a similarly sloppy player yourself, or just unfamiliar with what clarity and precision actually sound like, then this wouldn't register as a problem.
Secondly, appealing to "critics" and "reviews" is laughable. Most people praising her are just excited she recorded the complete works, which is a rare feat, but hardly a guarantee of quality. Being "to-the-letter" in Scriabin means nothing if you don't understand the inner logic of his harmony and phrasing. And no, dissertations don't make you a good interpreter. There's a long history of mediocre performers padding their credentials with academic nonsense. If you can't hear the basic sloppiness (rhythmic imprecision, pedal haze, dynamic flatness), then no amount of liner notes or glowing blurbs is going to compensate for that.
You say I'm the only one who thinks she butchers the 8th, but it literally took me 10 minutes to find multiple people point out her flat, uninspired, technically-flawed playing. Pic related. But of course, these don't count to you, because they're not "seasoned experts", right? What you mean is: you'll accept only the opinions that match your own.
You're defending mediocrity by consensus. I'm describing exactly where and how it fails. The difference between us is: I trust my education, ears, score, and I've formed an informed opinion through actual active listening and specific musical critique, backed by examples. You trust Amazon reviews and CD booklets.
please wait a few days before turning events which are still red hot in our memories into copypastas
Holy schizo or rly real??
But of course, these don't count to you, because they're not "seasoned experts", right?
Nah. They're just wrong. Fourths in that bar sound super OKAY in Lettberg actually, but I won't bother with schizos in this general. Seethe lol
Just normal abrahamic magical thinking
Excellent.
Alright, let's listen to the 8th, shall we? You have ears, right? Come now, let's listen together.
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Listen from 2:20. Do those sound like fourths to you? Does that sound like "clarity" to you? Does it sound good? Go ahead, justify this shit performance.
They somehow get even worse. Listen to 6:58 now, pic related. She fucking butchers them completely. You could somewhat excuse a stale and lifeless performance if it's technically perfect, but this isn't that either. It's just shit, and you have shit taste and Beethoven's skeleton hears better than you.
dude you're replying to copypasta from like four threads ago
bro this sounds super duper OKAY
Too late. Lettberg is unstoppable.
I am a veteran of that thread but originally I didn't respond.
I trust my education, ears, score, and I've formed an informed opinion through actual active listening and specific musical critique, backed by examples. You trust Amazon reviews and CD booklets.
We really Lett the genie out of the Berg with this one!
Then you missed the train. Now shut up, we've had enough of this particular flamewar.
Honestly, you are retarded. Scriabin wrote plenty of pieces in a conventional, tonal language with melodies that end in clear cadences.
I thought I was neurotic
You are.
no cadence means it's forgettable
ok that's just retarded I'm ready to continue this particular flamewar actually
Alright, alright. You got me.
I LISTEN TO LETTBERG BECAUSE I IMAGINE HER TITS WOBBLING AS SHE PLAYS PLAYS THOSE FOURTHS. HAPPY NOW?
Honestly, Scriabin is good but overrated. The dude doesn't finish his melodies. Even when they start off amazing, no cadence means it's forgettable. I guess you have to have an extremely neuoritc personality to enjoy it. I thought I was neurotic, but oh well.
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Sorry bros, this is good but not great... the harmony is just too spicy for me... and the melody... the melody is mediocre...
mfw this music
What is that supposed to mean
will you guys bully me if i post my musik?
What is that supposed to mean
In all likelihood, but don't let that stop you
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Yes, go ahead.
Scriabin died with Scriabin, a bit of his cold dead ejaculate falling inside Lettberg's mouth.
Just so we're clear:
Symphonies, Rêverie, Sonatas & Vers La Flamme: Ashkenazy
Piano Concerto: Postnikova+Rozhdestvensky
Op 54: Lokalenkov+Golovschin
Op 60: Argerich+Abbado
Symphonic Allegro: Moscow Philharmonic+Golovschin
2 Piano Fantaisie: Ponti+Leonardi
Scherzo & Andante for string orchestra: Hamburg Strings+Preyss-Bato
Everything else piano solo: Dmitri Alexeev
Everything else piano solo: Maria Lettberg
FTFY
I like Piers Lane in the preludes (although the music is insignificant)
Glad we're all finally in agreement regarding Scriabin
holy shit, this is a masterpiece.
Missa Beata Virgin
not for long
Did you know there wasn't only a Spanish triumvirate of masters of polyphony (Cristobal Morales, F. Guerrero & T. L. De Victoria) but also a Portuguese trio?
Their names: Manuel Cardoso, Felipe de Magalhaes & Duarte Lobo
best gnostic composer?
Checked but 0/10
you forgot alberto barbossa
no sofronitsky, goldenweiser
Nope. Ashkenazy is better at the important things, and Alexeev is above average as it is, and is the only other one with a complete piano solo set (with some caveats). Not to mention the sound quality is miles above anything Sofronitsky and Goldenweiser have to offer
1040 measures an imprint ehtat expresses symbolically Bach's authorship given in it's number equivalent
My favourite composer-Johnann Sebastian Baca
Sounds good to me dude
Well tell yer dude he a deaf cunt
lol. Exactly. I thought I was missing something.
now playing, more Beethoven
start of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 7 in F Major, Op. 59 No. 1 "Razumovsky"
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start of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 8 in E Minor, Op. 59 No. 2 "Razumovsky"
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start of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 9 in C Major, Op. 59 No. 3 "Razumovsky"
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England's The Strad said the ensemble exhibits "a beguiling freshness and spontaneity that creates the impression of these relatively early masterworks arriving hot off the press." Toronto's The Whole Note cited "performances of conviction and depth. This promises to be an outstanding set." Utah-based CD Hotlist remarked, "The Dovers stand out from the pack by playing with utterly perfect intonation, a near-telepathic sense of ensemble, and a lovely balance of passion and clarity." New York's WQXR proclaimed, "It's hard to imagine a group better suited to recording these works than the Dover Quartet."
The Dover Quartet has such a great tone for these works, love it off the rip.
Little boring to be honest. Beethoven should have not bothered with this one he was lacking inspiration
should have not bothered with this one he was lacking inspiration
Oh. It's possible it's just the specific performance you aren't a fan of. Thanks for trying it though!
You shouldn't ever say anon, that's blasphemy
A bit close to a decade ago, I confessed to a friend and fellow reviewer, Julian Grant, who graced these Amazon pages with his own informative and thought-provoking reviews I took the pleasure in reading, of how dissatisfied I was in music programmes particularly in America's concert halls. I was ranting about how too little we were exposed to the great composers like Glazunov, Atterberg, Nielsen, Popov, Myaskovsky, and others and the need to rectify that in part by not overplaying the familiar Tchaikovsky, Mahler, Beethoven, et al. in these halls. But Julian Grant put the matter into perspective in reminding me that repeated listening is a complex ingredient in music appreciation. It is indeed amazing, now that I am thinking about it, of how reactions to a piece differ upon subsequent hearings whether in concerts or in one's living room, especially when new performers have something differently to say. The over-playing issue is of course a legitimate one (still), but as demonstrated here in these recordings, the repeated-listening phenomenon, and what it yields, is ever so true.
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kill yourself today
Nope
great composers
Myaskovsky
stopped reading
Scriabin doesn't use cadences and refuses to resolve an 11-minute long piece of music? Heh, someone tell this kid about Tristan und Isolde.
I'm not sure if you people know this, but Wagner doesn't resolve the opening chords for the entire three hour opera, and even then it's not even a complete resolution! Scriabin is chump change.
edgy loser
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Kill yourself today
spamming fool
hate to embarrass you in front of all your friends but
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But what? Finish your thoughts. Also I don't know if you realise but you posted a piece by Myaskovsky, a shit composer. Surely that's unrelated, though.
Looks like you didn't need my help embarrassing yourself in front of all your friends.
None of you are my friends
let's argue about Bach today
speaking of Glazunov
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Also has anyone gone through the entire Naxos series of Glazunov's orchestral works? Any gems in there besides the obvious ones (symphonies and The Seasons)? Perhaps the Piano Concertos?
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Soulless sovietslop
What do you get if you start the day with Schoenberg?
Cerealism
*a statistic
sorted that sibilistic sister
Schoenberg
:D
Shit, how do I delete posts?
Seo Yeaji's reaction to Schoenberg's flirty dance
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It's a great romantic (in the literal sense) cello sonata.
So far so good, first part is good
Right!?
Was Chaconne like Bach's version of Shamone? Or did it actually mean something?
I've said this before, but despite finding Myaskovsky's symphonies interminably dull, this is a pretty charming cello sonata.
He has a good cello concerto and some decent string quartets too. But yeah, the symphonies... zzzzzzz like Russian Romantic classical written by AI