what's your favorite pre-Nevermind alternative rock album? i've been digging this stuff lately. pic related
What's your favorite pre-Nevermind alternative rock album? i've been digging this stuff lately. pic related
Joshua Tree
You just posted it.
i tend to forget U2 were alternative rock but i guess you're right
holy based
After Reckoning, my favorite would probably be either Is This Real by the Wipers or Zen Arcade by Husker Du.
are wipers generally considered alternative rock? i know they were a big influence on cobain but i generally see them classified as good 'ol punk rock.
zen arcade is dope by the way
I would say the Wipers count as alternative as much as Husker Du does.
hmm i see.
what do you think of sonic youth anon? i tend to see them ranked as the best alt band of the 80s and i think they're cool but they're not really my favorite one.
I don't understand the hate for Fables of the Reconstruction.
it's hated? i tend to see nothing but love for IRS era R.E.M. Sure, people tend to have a favorite like Murmur or the OP album but generally i don't see hate for any of those albums
I don't like them. I would recommend Polvo instead, which is a far more interesting band.
Yeah, I don't get it either. Fables is one of their best.
Obvious answer would be Doolittle
No, the real obvious answer would be Bleach kek
WIPERS first 3 .
yeah that's a classic pick. not Doolittle but i revisited Surfer Rosa shortly after Albini died and i really appreciated his production on it
Surfer Rosa's better
I urge everyone to try Wipers again. The more you listen, the better it gets.
Polvo Solitary Set is good. Reminds me of Pavement
The Wipers practically invented alt rock
trips of truth
Good taste, anon
Can’t give you a definitive answer, but I like Chopping Down the Family Tree-My Dad Is Dead
Nevermind: Released September 24, 1991
The Word and the Flesh: Released September 13, 1991
I made sure before posting
this so much
There's a Ritual de lo Habitual thread already up. That was probably it for me.
that's a cool guitar (G&L looks like) so I will listen
the band themselves didn't like it, they freely admitted it
i think that contributed to its reputation
i don't get it either, it's one of my all time faves
I didn't care for this band, but the guitar work was cool. Thanks page hamilton
Does "All of REM's IRS output" count as an album
Pylon invented all of this shit
You're Living All Over Me
Murmur
Reckoning starts off with three amazing tracks then falls off until it climbs back up with Letter Never Sent then falls off again
Camera is their first dud song
Probably this one, that's where the JAMC got good for me.
i used to think this was r.e.m.'s peak but now i think murmur is better. chronic town too. everything after those three is second-rate r.e.m.
can't get there from here is shit
I kinda think of them as a new wave band, like the same era as television and talking heads. probably more properly post-rock
Idk REM didn't seem like alt-rock to me, more like pop-rock.
And putting Pixies in the same basket with REM makes no sense.
But maybe it's because this alt-rock label was retrospectively applied to a lot of those bands from the 80s that defined it before it got mainstream.
Even though themselves were not alt-rock.
back in the day they were called college rock.
punk rock
Another vague label I never knew what it meant precisely.
Like all those bands that did rock influenced by punk in the 80s, but were not really weird/goth/experimental enough to be called post-punk?
REM are pretty widely credited with popularizing alt-rock, they only really got poppier with Lifes Rich Pageant. I think you have it in reverse and what people define as "alt-rock" became more narrow as time went on. Kind of like how Black Sabbath is a metal record with a bluesy harmonica on it.
I consider REM as like the baseline of what alt rock even is so that's kind of funny to read, they did get a LOT more pop influence as they went on though. Automatic always felt like a pullback to me, Everybody Hurts and The Sidewinder Sleeps 2nite notwithstanding. Most of the album is pretty antithetical to a pop sound.
Should clarify that I brought up Automatic in contrast to them generally including more pop elements at they went on, it feels notably out of place and kind of its own thing compared to the rest of their discography at the time.
wipers are post-rock
Wtf am i reading
Loveless
Just for a Day (Slowdive)
The Stone Roses
Nowhere (Ride)
Heaven or Las Vegas (Cocteau Twins)
Daydream Nation & Sister (Sonic Youth)
Gish (Smashing Pumpkins)
Ten (Pearl Jam)
this
also the reason nevermind exists
This is some of the most retarded revisionist zoomer nonsense I've ever read on this board
But maybe it's because this alt-rock label was retrospectively applied to a lot of those bands from the 80s that defined it before it got mainstream.
That's basically the precise inverse of what happened lmao
No, Is This Real? is the reason Nevermind exists.
it was the Pixies that inspired Nevermind
it wasn't, kurt lied
Pic related
is a very close second though.
No one has said The Smiths yet?
some weird decisions like the horns on some songs
Murmur mogs
It was actually Husker Du.
Weird how Cobain never mentioned them anywhere, right
And yet he copied the idea for making fast-paced rock with harmonic melodies from them
The Fall*
the first alternative rock band to be bigger than the "mainstream"
Nirvana sounds nothing like the Pixies
Nirvana sounds way closer to the Wipers than it does to Husker Du.