Post-Punk thread

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good band

Not Post-Punk and not good

How is it worse than Revelations or Fire Dances

So now that Geordie Walker is dead there will not Another new album?

Fucking This Heat dude. Their debut is good but Deciet is something else

It's funny those are singled out because I think those two are basically Night Time and Brighter if they were actually good.

Well that's a hot take

I'm not big on new wave and those albums veered a bit too close to my liking. Revelations and Fire Dances are still rather post-punk so I fuck with them. Could say the same about Talking Heads for example - I don't enjoy Speaking in Tongues at all, but Fear of Music is great. Similar-ish idea.

Do you enjoy their heavier albums past Pandemonium?

I enjoy almost everything past Pandemonium more than Pandemonium. Democracy's a bit eh and Extremities is a stronger album IMO, but the 21st century stuff is generally great.

Same, for me KJ is a band with almost no weak albums so it's sad that Pylon is most likely the last one

I don't know why I like The Fall but can't get into Pere Ubu
Probably because of Smith's norf accent

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I'm actually a hair more accepting of Outside the Gate considering the circumstances surrounding that one. Like it's such a bewildering release and story that it's at least perversely fascinating.

Debut>most of their material

Yeah, it's a great one. I like the follow-up a little more, and I'd maybe even say they peaked with it.

Favorite generic post-punk slop? Florence’s deadpan voice is mesmerizing to me for some reason
Quick rundown?

The rest of their discography doesn't interest me but i'd give it a go. Night time and their 2003 self titled were underwhelming. What did you like about the second album?

horror fills his pretty scrapbook
a massacre won't change his outlook
youtube.com/watch?v=3z6bJ4mT4rA

This seems to be a good thread to ask this: Is Post-Punk the most consistently great Rock sub-genre? I can’t think of another genre being this consistently great for 5 decades now. I know that a good chunk of it is Joy Division/The Fall/Gang of Four worship but still.
Also, I’m counting Goth Rock, it’s almost the same thing anyway.

Different strokes for different folks. Unlike punk rock and hardcore, post-punk is less straightforward than those genres where you know what to expect for the most part. Post-punk has enough variety to find a band or two you'll be into while having a whole cohort of other bands that aren't really your thing. It took everything about punk and experimented with it. Some are more punk sounding while others are more punk ethos with their music and approach to songwriting.
Post-punk bands that are a little more "punk" are Wire on Pink Flag, Killing Joke in their debut, Public Image Limited, Gang of Four, Joy Division

It's my favorite rock genre behind prog rock but I know a lot of people here don't like the modern stuff

do you have to be punk before you are post-punk? or can you start as a post-punk band right away?

Killing Joke are so good. RIP Geordie Walker
guitarworld.com/artists/guitarists/the-life-and-times-of-killing-joke-guitarist-geordie-walker
youtu.be/KrHsKZROG3g?si=oJXtTEi9X5ZO2SAE

Most post punk bands started out as post punk. Joy division had punk roots but shifted to a more post punk sound

It's basically a Jaz solo record fueled by a fascination with synthetic orchestral instrumentation. The band as a whole didn't have much to do with it and if I recall correctly, Geordie outright distanced himself from it. It only has Killing Joke on the cover because the record label had to try and sell the thing somehow.

I think it's generally cut from the same cloth as the first, but polished up and more consistent. You have stuff like The Fall of Because, Tension and Follow The Leader seeing them get better as a band, but then there's stuff like Madness, Unspeakable and Who Told You How? that keep it as weird and proto-industrial as the debut did. I'd say give this one a shot if you liked the debut, as well as maybe their last 3 albums as it saw the original lineup reconvening. At least give Absolute Dissent a chance and if that one's to your liking then go to 2012 and Pylon. Night Time's not much to my liking either, but I think 2003's pretty good. Extremities and Hosannas are rawer albums in that vein, you might like those a bit more if that sounds interesting.

David Thomas himself said Dub Housing was their best work, and he's right, Modern Dance has this conventionality to their rock music that they never explored again, all thanks to Tom Hermann's great playing, but the more fragmented follow-up is the real shining jewel in their discography, it takes longer to understand, there's at least 4 notable songs and 2 free improv pieces (Thriller and Blow Daddy-o), at first glance it looks half-assed, but man does it all come together as one great unit. Definitely up there as the best post-punk album

This is true and barely gets mentioned, most post-punk bands were punk before they posted it.

Rocket from the Tombs - Pere Ubu
The Neon Boys - Television
Warsaw - Joy Division
Cult Hero - the Cure

The Police also started as punk
youtube.com/watch?v=4Av29Jp8Ryk

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