Why was Jim Ward so racist?

From the start, however, the two butted heads with key member Jim Ward about musical direction and worldview. “He was conservative, and I was very, very liberal,” Rodriguez-Lopez said. “He knew Latin kids, but he didn’t hang out with them.”

theguardian.com/music/2024/nov/19/the-mars-volta-documentary

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Why would someone need to hang out with Latin kids? They intentionally leave you out even if you try. Or outright talk shit about you in Spanish.

Truth is they did better music when both swallowed their ego and worked together

They needed Jim for ATDI. He’s the heart and soul of the band and he balances out the laziness of Omar and Cedric. Their reunion was a disappointment and their Mars Volta reunion was no better. Not a big loss for music, these guys were hacks that depended on other people to make their boring slop interesting

Jim Ward sounds based

homophobia brought on by Rodriguez-Lopez’s fluid sexuality

?

All the interview says is sexist racist homophobic

Jim seems pretty based. Omar and Cedric are insufferable fucking fags and ruin anything they're a part of.

he was in a gay relationship with Jim's cousin Jeremy, who worked on the first Volta album. Jeremy died of a heroin overdose the same year the album released

I take all of this stuff with a rock of salt. Omar thinks just because he and Cedric made some of the greatest art in the history of man that his shit don't stink and he can treat people with disrespect.

thinking Omar and Cedric created anything other than trash

t. Milhouse lookalike who got decked by that Mexican kid in the 8th grade

he and Cedric made some of the greatest art in the history of man

they've got two decent albums plus a mountain of try-hard pseudointellectual drivel

sneed

When I saw them for their first reunion Jim Ward's vocals were blowing the fuck out of Cedric's. Cedric sounded so bad that I was wishing Jim would just take over entirely.

I watched this doc recently and it was fucking weird how much they came after Jim. Basically anyone that wasn't Cedric or Omar were the bad guys, but Jim was the one that got it the worst. The one good thing they included that he said was that he stopped the show because of women getting groped in the crowd

because he was the least talented member of the band
every racist and homophobe is a reject

He’s the heart and soul of the band

funny because he wasn't even in the band when they made their best song

band peaks on the first two tracks on their first album

Why did they do it? Are they stupid?

Katie Casey saw all the games,

Knew the players by their first names.

Told the umpire he was wrong,

All along,

Good and strong.

When the score was just two to two,

Katie Casey knew what to do,

Just to cheer up the boys she knew,

She made the gang sing this song…

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Take me out to the ball game,

Take me out with the crowd;

Buy me some peanuts and Cracker Jack,

I don't care if I never get back.

Let me root, root, root for the home team

If they don't win, it's a shame.

For it's one, two, three strikes, you're out,

At the old ball game.

Everyone is racist; some just hide it better than others

if you don't want some bloke's fluid all over you you're a homophobe

Everyone is racist

Not true, but they should be.

i watched this doc last night. i still love their music, but aside from all the music stuff the documentary was pretty gay. they also sound unbereable.

they also sound unbearable

That's no surprise. They always were cunts, but I thought they would be beyond the current grievance fashion. Maybe they've gotten old, lost their edge and became like resentful aunts. Still, let's separate the art from the artists.

let's separate the art from the artists.

i totally feel you. they barely talked about de facto, barely mentioned ikey owens and jon theodore, never mentioned juan, they talked a bunch of shit about jim ward, and the documentary lost steam once cedric started to talk about his scientology bullshit helping him to quit weed and all that.

it's a good idea to hang out with people who speak other native languages if they don't know that you cannot speak them. I learned more when stationed in Germany than any school could ever teach me because everyone was convinced that I didn't know any German so they freely talked about anything they wanted in front of me.

What wokeism does to two motherfuckers. They used to be based. Now they're a bunch of whiners. I'll never watch that documentary. Too painful.

That's weird because he actually does lead vocals on their best song

super tiring. omar was just blaming white people for everything wrong that happened in his life, and i am as much of a spic as he is. yeah, you can pass on it anon, the documentary just felt like a glorified wikipedia article to me.

I've been reading the book Sellout recently and at the end of the At the Drive-In chapter Jim talks about going to one of the first Mars Volta shows drunk and burying the both of them, saying their band won't work out because they're two drugged out fuckups. Those guys really don't like each other. I imagine the 2012 reunion tour was a very tense few months

nah, druggies are always talking shit about each other, part of the lifestyle

blaming white people for everything

Years ago, I read an interview where they acknowledged they had been retarded for kicking out Jon Theodore. Now it seems like they've become woke chuds. Omar at least used to have vision and be genuinely intelligent. Unironically sad.

Sparta is unironcally better than anything these two retarded Mexican faggots have ever done

Read that book Sell Out and even back then they came across as fucking faggots and made me hate ATDI even more because of it.

Of course a dumbass racist is also going to be a complete pleb.

Seethe more

Of course a dumbass racist is also going to be a complete pleb.

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Why are they such assholes to Jim?
Like, aren't they "latin kids" and he's hanging out with them?
Why test your "friend" and bandmate with this bs.