/prod/ - Music Production

fucking dicks, i almost got baited into buying a behringer compressor because it was allegedly an accurate clone of drawmer DL241, and the drawmer sounds great, but others said the behringers were comparable to shit-tier alesis 3630

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Everything behringer is just a cheap Chinese knockoff of something else. Although I do think their oberheim knockoff is good enough. I only advise gearfagging for one reason only: offset DSP away from your CPU and enhance workflow speed and efficiency. Don't gearfag unless that is your only reason for it.

I can't believe I'm saying it, but I hope that 80s gearfag cargo cultist comes back. I can't believe it never occurred to me to say this during his argumentative justifications for his expensive vice, but if ableton "sucks for MIDI" because it's tedious and not tactile to draw sequences in the piano roll, then why not use an outboard sequencer actually made for ableton? The Push can do this very quickly and easily. And I have a Push and rarely ever use it for sequencing. Gotta start integrating it because it REALLY speeds things up when you can use both hands to do a task and there's tactile feedback

i cannot wait to see chuzo go down the gearfag hoarder route and still not make a single song lmao

i've already acquired some great gear and i'm going to mod them with higher spec electronic components, you don't know how advanced my operation is, meanwhile you don't even have the audio and listening skills to recognize that high end outboard gear sounds better than the software alternatives

Any of you guys ever make unique Serum sounds with this method? You can get some awesome shit this way.

youtube.com/watch?v=EDISgpWtnzM&list=LL&index=125&t=479s

take a sample of a transient, tonal sound, and import to Serum/2 oscillator, select constant frame size pitch average

edit the wavetable: make the grid 64x64, then X fade all edges to grid size, then remove DC offset

grab an unsync'd LFO with a ramp shape and set it to envelope mode, apply this to the wavetable position, then adjust the hertz of the LFO until you get something that resembles the original sample

drop the original sample into the noise oscilllator (serum 1) or a sample-mode oscillator (serum 2) and activate one shot and key tracking (you might also have to adjust the octave for some samples)

duplicate the original oscillator A and add some voices and low unison

set the main amp envelope to something that matches the ADSR of your original sample

now you have something clean and sparkly, and doesn't really sound like a live instrument OR a sampled instrument, but something in between

you can also start stacking effects and other modulations until you have something totally unique and playable

and i'm going to mod them with higher spec electronic components

I genuinely can't tell if this is actually him, or somebody else saying they got into the dumbest most unproductive niche parts of music production to make fun of him, because they're completely indistinguishable.

meanwhile you don't even have the audio and listening skills to recognize that high end outboard gear sounds better than the software alternatives

Would you care to put that theory to the test? I have this Prophet Rev 2 i still use for DSP offsetting. If you think you can actually tell the difference, I can upload a vocaroo of some prophet presets and software presets. This synth is an analog signal path except for the digitally stabilized oscillators. Which any highly knowledgeable gearfag will admit are the exact same waveform, but with a stable pitch. The main difference between hardware and software is the filters, and this one has analog filters. If there really is a difference, certainly you should be able to tell with at least 90% accuracy. Do you welcome the challenge?

if i'm rocking to my own songs, is that a good sign

Only if you're rocking to them when they are complete songs and have been finished for a few days

A song is never finished

it just stops moving...

most anons have shitty filters in their analog to digital converters, and vocaroo uses low quality mp3 (anons even complain about the opus codec used by youtube music and they get a pass somehow), you would have to play complex and interesting material that actually sounds great because there is no point in proving that software can reproduce a mediocre sound that would hardly be usable in serious music production

Not.
One.
Song.

i don't even care about synths that much it's the compressors and such

im never gonna release a single song if i keep listening to all advice ITT

drawmer isn't common in my country so i haven't really researched it yet. they have tube and FET compressors too.

revive audio claims this with their mods:

The result is a Professional compressor that Pro Studios will want to use daily for any number of tasks.

These come out sounding extremely musical with excellent headroom and dynamic range in thier price range.

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all this thinking about gear retardation is time that should be spent on writing great melodies. have we run out of great melodies? dont hear as many instant classics as we used to!

why isn't chuzo banned for spamming?

Being retarded and posting a lot isn't a bannable offense, but when he starts being aggressive with the obvious baiting they do ban him and he always just comes back.
He's unstoppable.

is logic pro good if youre going into the apple ecosystem

What integration does Logic have with the ecosystem that isn't achievable with other DAWs that are available for Mac?

posting a lot

surely would be against GR10, no?
many of his posts should fall under GR6 too.
I don't think I've ever seen his ass get banned

GR10

I guess his screenshot dumps could be considered spamming/flooding, but it's kind of a grey area.
Him being a very active user and just posting his opinions a lot doesn't constitute spamming.

GR6

He's been outed several times as a troll, so yeah, his whole chuzo persona is for sure against rule 6. The issue is proving it.
We're regulars here so we know what he's like and can recognize his writing and the inconsistencies across posts/threads, but mods who aren't regulars on /prod/ and /dmp/ can't just look at someone being dumb and recognize that he's an elaborate high-effort troll. That would at least require the presence of a janitor who's a regular in these threads, which seems unlikely to me.
BTW, this is extremely common on Anon Babble. Many of the communities I've been lurking in across the entire sites have people like this. I'm not sure what could be done, other than drastically increasing moderation.

his whole chuzo persona is for sure against rule 6

6 and 3*

im not sure, i havent used macOS since the imac
you can use the iPad with it i know that, and logic is tailored for apple silicon but other than that im not really sure which is why im asking

the last thing this website needs is heavier moderation, just learn to mentally filter it

This website is in DIRE need of heavier moderation, which doesn't necessarily mean more censorship or more "no fun allowed" jannies removing everything they don't like. That's more of an issue of direction/vision than a direct moderator count thing.
Them not being able to enforce the post quality rule is making this site almost unusable (chuzo is the example), so even just increasing the number of jannies and mods to enforce the most basic and necessary rules would make a positive difference.

go to reddit then,sounds like its more your speed

mods being able to enforce the rules that keep the site being flooded with shitposters is the only difference between here and reddit

Retard.

I just had a dream where I was at some music convention and found the whole Ed Banger roster in a room where they were taking turns jumping off of a short staircase and a foldable table.
I thought "that's shit's easy, I'll show 'em some cool tricks and they'll invite me to their cool group" so I got in line and when it was time to jump the table wobbled and I fell on my face. I was embarrassed but nobody laughed or anything. They just ignored me, so I got back in line to do it again, but got distracted with random dream shit and when I got back in line to do my second jump my alarm clock went off and it was too late.

Is my subconscious trying to tell me something?

i want more moderation

you clearly havent even used the site long enough to have an opinion worth reading if you genuinely believe this
i miss when newfags lurked for a year before posting

inb4 im le oldfag

no argument

only a convenient assumption to base my appeal to authority fallacy on

Stop bothering me retard. Nothing you say will ever matter.

le appeal to authority

tranny redditor seething over basic Anon Babble board culture

called it

So the answer is no then? You don't think you could pass my test? Well if not even the gearfag hoarder can do it, for reasons X, Y, and Z related to platform compression, what makes you think normies can do it?

do you even have an interface that scores better than 50db here?
gearspace.com/board/showpost.php?p=17439861&postcount=3118

it's like this:
you might not consciously notice with a high degree of certainty if a sports car is 2% faster after you upgraded a component, but it sure as fuck will give you an advantage in a race

So that's what gearfagging is about? Competing with other gearfags to win a competition where the prize is your collection might get appreciated by other gearfags? Where does any of this tie into writing music for an audience?

cope harder idiot
you need a good interface to even begin to have this conversation, of course a hardware synth probably won't sound sound spectacular compared to a good emulator when your recordings in general sound unnaturally dull, that's more of a (You) problem than a synth problem

I'm the one coping? You're the one insisting that there's a vast difference between hardware and no hardware, and when pressed you immediately walked it all the way back, but it's ME that's coping. Lol ok fag

you haven't proven anything at all. no sound demos. and it's basic common sense that there are caveats to doing a proper test, retarded faggot boomer

Brian Gardner, Dr. Dre’s renowned sound engineer, used a small golden box that turned out to be the Lavry Gold Converter, modified with proprietary power supplies. After comparing it with other processors, it was clear that this device had the best sound quality.

The Lavry Gold Converter quickly became a secret weapon among many sound engineers, who began using it to achieve a louder and higher quality sound. The main advantage of the Lavry Gold Converter was its soft saturation, which allowed engineers to push the converters to their limits while maintaining a musical sound.

This technique was crucial for the mastering of The Chronic 2001 and significantly contributed to the album’s iconic sound.

random Anon Babble anons sure know better than these gearfags lmfao

made this cover yesterday as some sort of one take-ish homemade minimalist stuff.
What do you think mubros?
voca.ro/123cfHzhjyDT

vocaroo.com/11DgR8a65pkP

I have been doing more sample-based beats lately, but one thing I consistently run into is finding the balance between "repetitive enough to be an earworm" and "fuck, this shit never ends." Any advice on not overdoing a sample? I know that dude Arnold Schoenberg said you have to create mutations of the original sound that are familiar, but not identical, so retain the pitches or rhythm, but I fuck that up with sampling. I like the way the 8 bars in the first phrase sound, but I don't wanna overdo them. Any formulas you guys follow or methods you tend to use?

inb4 sampling is cancer

Yeah, but I think it's fun and that's good enough for me.