/gg/ guitar and bass general

My Eastman arrived. It's way to nice to play i haven't taken out of the case since I unpacked it and strummed it for 30 minutes

I always feel bad about playing expensive guitars

if you don't own a board full of CAHSE BILSS pedals, then don't even enter the thread

Want a good small amp I can plug headphones in with cool effects, what should i get?

Just finished soldering my board

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Bigger than I wanted but I'll consider it, I was thinking more along the positive grid spark go size

I used to be like this until I realized I'm not poor and will never need to sell my guitars ever and they are meant to be played, so if I ding it well thats just relicing and people pay good money for that.

The mini is pretty small watch the video

Synthy digital sounding garbage

Nice I put some of those knobs on my sg

Yup like most new ehx pedals

fuck new EHS (just learned this), fuck other pedals too, just use distortion you dumb faggots. "h-how do i play guitar." google it bitch

No one needs pedals. Just plug into the amp. Get the sounds of the pedals by manipulating your hands

just get an interface and then download the program Guitar Rig, simple.

love how this /gg/ is dying on the vine but the bump limit thread is still firing off.

you love how this what is dying on the cliche because you're a gay faggot?

nobody linked the new thread dumbass

stroke me and suck yer dad ya got beans fer brains cunt

Ding, Ding, Ding!

No guitar in the OP, its very hard for the illiterate to find these threads when the pictures don't match.

which acoustical should i get

<Gibson SJ200

Guild D55

Martin D41

The one that you want.

You're a wiener, it doesn't matter.

is it normal for my neck to be this floppy
voca.ro/1mCDQgcVu9ZW
this is not a whammy bar this is just me shaking the guitar gently

Gibson J180

ive narrowed down what i want to those three and am now consulting the collective
i am not a weiner
if its a gibson its the sj200

uh no that absolutely is not normal lol

J180 is a bit smaller and more comfy.

im tall which is why i like the jumbos to begin with but am hesitant on the gibson because i played a sj200 and a dove a few weeks ago and they were kaka

OK, if those are the rules then get the SJ200.

Yes, J, you are a wiener.

mfw

im scared of it sucking but i know if its good its the best of the three, but the other two are more consistent
no im not a weiner

Kino

Are you shopping around for them, or buying sight-unseen? I thought you were able to try them and find a good one.
If you're buying new without trying them, get the Martin.

def not the gibson

its sight unseen, again the sj200 in town was kaka and they dont have any tippy top high end examples of other brands
might just get the guild, itd be different than the martin and they're basically the exact same guitar

i mean, its like everyone has a msrtin but nobody has high end guild stuff+im familiar with the brand
yeah i always wanted a sj200 but risking ~6000$ being tied up for weeks in return shipping if it's shit just isnt worth it to me

USA Guild?

The guild DOES have cool inlays.

of course
and i love the headstock shape too, kinda art deco design philosophy

True

If they were all prime examples of each model, the Gibson would sound the best. The Martin is the safest bet.

Are those the guitars you are choosing from? Specifically those guitars?
I don't like the look of the Guild, and think Martin makes a better instrument, overall. I'd get the Martin if it was my choice.

Yes thats literally the exact 2 models im looking at
i prefer the way the guild looks lol, guess its just down to preference
sound wise they seem voiced at the opposite ends of the spectrum, the guild is all bass and treble while the martin is mid focused
gonna sleep on it, itll be a few weeks before the trigger is pulled either way

the exact 2

That video was published 3 years ago, nigga.

high end acoustics dont change every couple years like electrics do, theyre specd exactly the same then as they are now

High-end acoustics break in and change year by year. Especially high-end acoustics.

i dont understand what youre trying to say here, i meant those exact models not literally the physical guitars in that video

I'm saying there is a lot of variance in the sound of high-end acoustics, even within the same model/specification, depending on age, care taken during lifetime, current humidity levels, etc.
Anyway, if the question was posed to me which of the 3 guitars would I commit to, without trying them first, I would roll the dice on a Martin.

Get a nice archtop.

i see, thank you for your input anon
no

They all sound like shit

that's a good explanation of the difference & history of the 2, but an awful example of a rebut to sounding like shit, very thin & tinny

No I mean I don’t understand the point. It sounds like shit compared to normal bass playing.

You wouldn't and shouldn't be asking here if you're actually serious about buying guitars of that caliber

Post your playing.

holy faggot

sunday morning

5am

browse sweetwater

forgot to log out

5:30am

Sweetwater Sales Engineer calls me

anything you need?

Maybe you are too strong

It literally and figuratively slaps.

PRS Silver sky nebula for £3k yes/no? Can I flip it for more?

I have a J Bass. I'm slightly annoyed by the amount of hum the single coils are putting out when I turn the tone knob back up -- it's basically unusable above 75% if put through compression and overdrive.
I generally prefer warm, punchy sounds (more in the P bass realm) to the bright stuff, but it would be nice to have options.
Been thinking about selling the J and getting a Stingray, but I also dislike being dependent on batteries for the active electronics... so I'd have to mod it with a bypass switch, or just bypass them permanently.

Unsure how to proceed, what are your opinions?

I have been playing bass for over 20 years and barely understand equipment issues, functions and changing my strings. You are talking about the Jazz bass and the Precision bass, from Fender, right?

Yes, and the Stingray from MusicMan.
The Fenders both use single coil pickups, which are prone to humming. The Stingray has a humbucker pickup, which greatly reduces this.
The Stingray also has some electronics on board which give great tonal variety, but require a 9V battery for the bass to function. I dislike this. I could mod it to bypass the electronics (I've got the relevant skills), but I'm unsure if it's worth the effort.

I don't want to shit on your guitar because I know Eastmans are very nice, but come on man. Iit's a Made in China guitar. It's never going to be an heirloom, you can go ahead and play the fuck out of it without any worries.

hey noob here, how do i plug my guitar into my PC and have my PC do the effects?

Get some Dimarzio Model J's. Noiseless and sound fat as shit.

Great idea, probably the most economic option and I've done pickup swaps on guitars in the past. Cheers

guitar>cable>guitar interface> DAW of your choice> Amp-sim VST of your choice.

You could even do without the DAW if you don't want to record. I recommend Bias FX for an all in one software.

i.. i miss you

vocaroo.com/17f4IqtoMh25

Download Marshall Bluesbreaker 1962 NAM profile from ToneHunt and try sending it to AmpliTube vintage clean amps. Adjust input of NAM, adjust gain of AmpliTube amps. cool tones on the fly

heartbreaker for kingg

Then get a G&L. They're active, but have a cut-off switch. Although they'll have a P neck instead of J.

Get a p bass and stop lying to yourself.

i hate tremolos, i wish jackson sold a hardtail JS12 dinky

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I have floyd rose in my 80s Charvel and I've removed the handle.

Some people may ask what's the point: but I find it keeps the tuning better than hardtail (even though some claim it's the opposite). If I want some subtle tremolo I simply use my hand to float the floyd up and down

I have two charvels

I like Charvels.

nice

Gay

I have 3, used to have 2 more but sold them. late 80s/early 90s MIJ model series and CX.

I love my 80s MIJ Charvel Model 4, but for another shred axe I've been thinking of getting late 80s or early 90s MIJ Yamaha RGX

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Is there a more effective way to build pinky strength than playing guitar for a while, and when you want to take a break, then just lay on the couch and watch a movie while holding a guitar and doing nothing but vibrato and hammer ons/pull offs with your pinky? I feel like I don't have the pinky control to reliably and consistently hit the 18th fret in picrel, and it triggers me. I think that more pinky control would also aid in sweeping faster and more consistently, because I'm comfortable at 100bpm, but when sweeping from the 1st string to the 5th, I find that my pinky has to travel further than the rest of my fingers, and at faster bpm this becomes a problem.

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Yngwie and I would hit that note with our ring fingers, but get the 18th fret on the high E string with the pinky.

What about 101 bpm?

I have considered that and played around with it a bit, but it feels so much more natural to try to hit it with the pinky and do the rest of the sweep with as I normally would. If I hit it with the ring finger it feels like I'm deviating from the minor shape too much, but I guess I'm technically already deviating from the shape, so maybe it does not matter and I just have to force myself to do it that way.

That sounds like stinky finger

i cant use my ring finger on my fret hand because of a workplace injury so my pinky over the years has become the gigapinky

heh, I have 4 and sold 3 of 'em come to think of it.

i would kill for a charvel 750xl but theyre literally unobtainum only coming up around once a year on reverb for like 3 or 4 grand and sell in a couple days

why? I honestly don't get charvels. They're less comfy super strats. Gimmie Ibanez if she's gunna have a flat board.

its a neck thru, maple cap, gibson scale length superstrat
was only made for a year because it was literally so good charvel immediately discontinued it because itd fuck up the entire market
known colloquially as the "Les Paul killer"

Anyone else play bass with your fingernails and sound like shit when they break

You can't find something similar from the dozen other companies that do this kind of guitar?

No, the only brands that do a gibson scale length strat shaped object are caparison and vigier, and neither of them make it specd as well as that charvel

For that diminished shape I use the pinky finger on the G string, but if it's part of a dominant 7th arpeggio I'll use the pinky on the G string.

pic rel

Is that the one Shawn Lane played?

I fuck I meant to say,

For that diminished shape I use the RING finger on the G string, but if it's part of a dominant 7th arpeggio I'll use the PINKY on the G string.

Get the SJ-200, but specifically the Elvis version. It has much more soul than the others, and will probs get you more poon.

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Martin invented the acoustic guitar, so get the original.

gibson scale length

dogshit amerislop memefuckery

nails growing so fast i have to file them every day so i can play guitar

fucking hell

start playing guitar

already have 4 guitars

looking at another guitar i really want

looking at getting a p bass too

cant even play a full song

the LTD feels better to play than the Gibson

to be fair thats like the cheapest gibson possible verus the most expensive LTD possible

I need your help, anons, playing guitar might finally help me get laid...

So, I'm dating this girl, and when I told her I play guitar, she asked me to send her a video of me playing something. When I asked what she wanted to hear, she said I'd have to surprise her. Now I'm stuck trying to figure out what to play.

What do you think about Grace by Jeff Buckley?

You probably can't afford a single pedal from my board.

Playing for girls is unironically gay and will not get you laid. kys

I think your board is cool and appreciate the work you put into it.
However I'm skeptical if you even play guitar, looks like a synth rack.

too bad she already told me she likes me and likes being with me

Of course I play guitar. The pedals are just a tool

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88

based
Can I hear your some sounds you make with your pedals?

youtu.be/wn0W-oLwTt0

if this guy can do it, why cant you

Bros, I think we finally rid ourselves of the schizo

What should piper and I learn today /gg/uys?

paying 8 times for fv-1 algos instead of just getting a programmable board and pirate eeprom images

ngmi

How can I tell a "professional grade" guitar from the other pieces of shit?

if it has stainless steel frets its professional
it not its overpriced costco shit

nice $4k board there, hope you got everything you need

vocaroo.com/12rRlE9hhUsg

Tribute to the 245lbs Mountain of a Man. His vocas have inspired me, but I still don't have alesis drum machine and those sweet beats

not just buying a tonex one pedal and calling it a day

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tf are you on about?

brown skin detected

many pedals are just the same hardware running different EEPROM programs. I don't know where you'd get pirate'd versions but in theory you could run several if not all of the Chase Bliss pedals in one enclosure.

Physical gear is obsolete. Go DAW + Modeller route. Honestly feels fucking good when I got rid of most of my gear and now just have laptop, headphones and audio interface.

Green Day? Blink182? Radiohead?

So I guess Gibson had made closed-body ES135s. Have you ever seen one?

Digital pedal is a computer that will never reboot to install updates by itself

Play Fender

ed sheeran is what she wants

You have these doomsday scenarios that the Laptop will start force updating itself and reboot middle of you nailing a solo

You can pause and postpone the updates. The laptops usually don't crash if it's a dedicated unit running only your DAW etc.

It is not as if your other physical devices (pedals) are not as suspectible to malfunction

Dude, I create, OK?

You can pause and postpone the updates. The laptops usually don't crash if it's a dedicated unit running only your DAW etc.

files.catbox.moe/vgylyj.mp4
you do not wanna be this guy 5 minutes before a gig no matter how small. always have physical gear whether it's a pedal or an amp.

you could always just disable updates so that you need to manually install and download them

but i doubt some favela monkey knows about group polic

forgot pic

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Like a bird, matter of fact. People have refered to my voice as "dulcet", "melodious", serene, otherworldly, inherently sexual, and "lit".

Whoa is that the Ronnie Coleman hunk?

Voice of an angel, yet people here claim you are built like Ronnie Coleman?

Trying to improve my bass improv skills. Just wondering as someone whos only been playing for about 5 months, what kind of practice routines help? should i be playing chord notes when i practice jamming by myself? i usually just pick a spot to return home to and play whatever but im trying to see if there are techniques for making good bass lines no matter where you start.

Last four posts are me btw (by the way), bros...

in rock you play root. if you want to get jazzy alternate the root and fifth

youtu.be/BHUKcP_3_oM
this is kind of blues noise rock, is the bass player here also doing root notes? do you know anything about blues?

When I was starting out, I would find a song I like, figure out what key/scale it was, and put a picture of the scale overlayed on the fretboard on my screen. And I would play along improvising while looking at the scale as a guide. I would do this while listening to rolling Stones songs and eventually you start to form a map in your brain. A map of sounds and where certain licks work, and where they don't. And eventually you don't need the picture of the scale, it is in your mind and fingers. Or putting songs on shuffle and trying to play along with them as if you where a part of the ensemble. Learning what notes are in the scale is very important, but putting them into practice is where you really get it down. Learning how to play things improvisationalu that fit in and seem part of the whole... Really finding comfort in the scale and having it be something that you don't have to think about. But always try to sound good. You will have certain things you gravitate too. Certain places on the neck that you like the sound of. Improvisation is a very powerful skill.

Do you still train your technique? I hear some advanced guitars try to un-learn what they've gathered over the years so they do a full circle and sort of come back to the point where they started at - to begin afresh

The approach always changes and morphs. As you learn new things it changes other things. As far as technique I have found that you can increase it quickly if you really woodshed and play scales for hours a day for a period of time. And you come out of that with abilities you wouldn't have thought of. So it is like a slow progression of knowledge and skill, with occasional focused intense bursts of technique minded practice sessions for multiple days/weeks. And it's not like it is some arduous task. When you are in one of those woodshed type stretches it feels really good. The physical act of playing feels incredibly good when you are in good form (from your perspective, if you know what I mean).

this dude is here every day shilling for computer program crap but never posts his playing or tones
i wonder why?

Do you consider yourself a composer, musician or a guitarist?

Do you?

I always lol at retards that are too stupid to manage updates. It's literally the most simple streamlined thing ever but manbabbies still cannot figure it out.

I consider myself all of those things. It comes from guitar though, I suppose. I learned piano by translating what I knew from guitar onto the keyboard. Basically looked at the notes in my guitar chords, and figuring out how those chords looked on a piano. Basically it's a feeling you channel. It is the same feeling when you are playing a piano solo that is good to your ears, as it is when on guitar. And if you have a creative mind, which I think we all do in our own way, you can dig into this feeling. It is separate from music even, much less theory or instruments, but it can be interacted with through them.

It's simpler to explain to retards than "I want real time os"

You speak like some great composer, a trained classical guitarist, yet when I listen your Vocaroos: it is this surrealist Alesis drum machine beats stream of consciousness avantgarde FX fest with no clear cohesion, structure - just pure undiluted cacophony?

What gives?

A drum machine is always playing somewhere. Maybe it happens to be within "microphone" range. The cohesion you are after is self evident. You are afraid of yourself. Ask me to explain myself? Why would you want to know, if you believed what you just said?

I don't want to be afraid

Than go practice scales, lad.

Why? I just want to put on those sweet beats from some drum machine, fool around with my effects board - see where the night goes, you know? Just jam into the night...

What does that have to do with fear. Let me tell you about fear. By it's essence it is unexpected. It can be comforting, the feeling giving you permission to think your wretched thoughts. But even merited fear resides in the self. Does a rock have fear, a seed? And the outsiders see it. They know you are afraid. And they act on it. Punk rock was from this. If someone tells you it's punk rock it's not.

i dont know how to tell by ear which scale a song is in, but i am getting better at hearing notes. i was able to figure out a song i like one day when i was improv jamming i accidentaly played part of it and worked my way from there. i have been playing since novemeber and ive never done scales i always just try making songs or learning songs. i really do need to focus on fundamentals for a bit just so i have a better understanding of how to play. ill add learning major/minor scales to my daily routine. i learned the E and A string notes pretty fast but for some reason D and G string are still fucking me up. that'll probably be fixed w scale practice but just in case theres any other method, just wanted to mention another area where im struggling

There can be no true progress if there is fear or progress

can u pls be serious. im trying to have a conversation pal

The guy you're having a conversation with is a mighty talker, but have you listened his vocaroos? I don't think you need this sort of guitar mentoring

With all respect. I mean I respect Mountain's body of work, but it's not for beginner guitarists

See what I mean?

Retard here. Do i plug the guitar into the distortion pedal and then the amp? Or put the pedal in the effects loop?

I bought this thing but to be honest I don't even know what it's for or why I should use it.

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I love my dinky but i have no use for the floyd rose. And it makes alternate tunings impractical. That's why i bought this other Jackson for 170 used and put 11 guages on it. I love playing that dinky though the neck is better than the V

just buying shit

gmi

what does a compressor do?

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compresses stuff

post a scale for me to learn right now

voodoo scale

Does anyone know the chords for Endless Nameless?

fish scale

Let me guess its an SG.
Every SG I pickup has this problem, its a design feature.

you usually want distortion ahead of your amp
generally it's modulation effects that you want in the loop

So why don't they make a pedal with a subscription fee that can change between all the algorithms

They'd need a screen to show what each knob does at that point, might not be possible or too costly to fit one in. Also the DSP to run multiple at once.

How do you go about copying the sound of another guitarist's guitar?

you watch videos/interviews to learn which pedals they are using

equipboard

learn how to recognise modulation effects
learn how to recognise basic EQ/Tone settings
have access to both single coils and humbucklers

I'd raise the bridge, file down the nut, and take the buzz out the low E.

she had not played the guitar, how did she know what things needed to be set up on it?

yeah that specific line is cringe but i guess it sounds technical to normgroids

wouldn't filing down the nut cause it to buzz more?

In French she would be known as " la renard" and would be hunted with only her cunning to protect her.

can't do 12 to 15 with index and pinky while standing up and have to use my ring finger on the 15th fret

Why do I have to be a handlet

reduces the volume of a signal above a certain threshold by a certain amount according to a certain envelope. so lets say your threshold is -18db, all signals above that will be compressed, say at a 2:1 ratio, with the onset of the compressor taking .1ms and the release taking .5ms. everything you hear on the radio is extremely compressed. it makes things sound louder but at the expense of dynamic range.

hmmm no I'm not clicking that

nice tits

It's essentially a clean overdrive. It increases sustain but never clips.

Django Reinhardt did that with his index and middle finger

what's the lowest I can tune on a 25.5" scale length?
I've heard of people going to drop A with 12-64 strings, but how much further can I go without needing a baritone?

Some dude was here the other day saying he could to get to drop A or something. I didn't think it was possible, but I guess so.

peelingflesh tunes to drop a with 25.5" BC Rich Shredzilla Extremes

I got my first electric guitar today, Never touched an instrument before but im a big music fan from pop indie to metal. Now my question is what's the perfect way to start and in 8 months can i play songs like sweet child o mine? I would practice 2 hours a day and if u guys recommend i would go take lessons to learn the basics. What should i do please.

posting this again because it makes me paranoid. There's no way these are the same colors right? I really prefer the right ones. What if the display guitar at my local store has the good color, but the packed mustang I buy from them has the ugly one?

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just change your white balance

why get a mustang over a strat anyways?

At one point I thought the guitars on the left might be renders, but the mustang on picrel has a color more similar to the left one. No way it's just the lighting. I think the colors can differ. Fuck.

it's just colorgrading
it will look different to either in IRL

fender should stop doing that. the color on the fender website looks ugly

Yeah the color can probably differ slightly, probably not as much as stock pictures though.
Just go on reverb or somewhere and buy one that you can see has the coloring you prefer.

when i ordered my jstrat through the mod shop it arrived a slightly more vibrant blue than what the diagram showed fwiw
i think their website is just washed out color wise or something

if you just want to play songs then learning to read tabs should be good enough.

based naturalchad

compare the color temp of the pickguards.
your answer lies there.

I like that they even do it for cheaper stuff (mostly). A lot of places who try it just keep it to top shelf gear.

Hey cumshitter long time no see lol hows the blown out black cherry

I will never understand this. You can play the same guitar for years and as long as you don’t drop and take basic care of it, it it will always look brand new. Play the damn thing. It’ll be alright.

I got the new fender mustang v2 headphone amp. It fucking rocks

Yeah if you play your guitar right you can get reverb and delay bro with a phaser it’s all in the hands bro trust me

I've dabbled in guitar for most of my life but never really got into it much. My last attempt at it was using a $150 used acoustic from a pawn shop. Fast forward 5 years or so I've been really enjoying shoegaze/ dreampop/ indie style music and it's got me interested in guitar again. I think i lost interest in it because i was bored with playing acoustic and being a cheap old guitar it didn't exactly play well or sound that great. I think electric would at least give me a bit more to experiment with which is what I think would keep me inspired. What would experts recommend I start out with to learn? I really only know some basic chord shapes, I don't have a clue what keys are, octaves, 5ths, 9ths, etc. I'm probably going to go with a jazzmaster style squire because that's what all the shoe gaze bands use and i'm not opposed to spending some money but would like to stay under $1000 for a total setup including guitar, amp, a few pedals, some way to record tracks and make drum patterns and bass to play over. and also a way that I can play through head phones because I'm self-conscious about my terrible playing.

holy shit the value of the guild d 55 drops by like 70 percent from new lmao
scratch that option, even though id never sell it its difficult to justify spending 5k on a guitar that goes used for 1800

why don't you just buy a used one

spend $300 on a guitar, $700 on an amp, and worry about pedals later

he knows I rub my balls on all the used guitars

just learn power chords and then just cover it up with a bunch of shitty earrape distortion

i want this to be the last guitar i ever buy, a real heirloom, and dont want to cheap out
also

if you had to buy a guitar and didn't inherit one for free from a family member then that means you don't have the music gene and you will always be a step behind us real musicians.

just get the SJ200
it'll make that one guy on /gg/ really really mad

Yet we're both on Anon Babble instead of being successful

Guitar: Picrel (since you said you wanted a Jazzmaster), $499. Can be found used for about $100 less.
Amp: Katana Gen 3 50w, has 1w home volume mode, connects to PC, and has the effects you need. $299.
Pedals: up to you, the Katana has you covered.

she also said she'd raise the bridge.

you don't know me

Post setlist of last show you did right now

Get a DAW and some plug ins on the high seas

What is a DAW and plug-ins?

If a man wants to gaze upon his shoes,
MS70CDR
Behringer super fuzz

file down the nut

raise the bridge

so what shed wind up doing is essentially nothing then

I have both of these, but you are better off with a marshall shredmaster

just get the d41 of youre doing a martin, literally the only difference between it and the 42 is the only around the fretboard extension

ctrl f voca

I like the amp recommendation, thank you. I'm actually surprised as all the guitars I'm seeing used are strats and telecasters.

Jazz Odyssey

you are both wrong. Kevin Shields used a boss HM2. behringer make an exact clone of that

I tried it and didn't like it, i also tried their metal zone and MD2 clones. i liked the MD2 the best and eventually bought the original Boss version.

Digital Audio Workstation is software that allows you to record music and play along to drum tracks.
Plug ins will be some sort of amp simulator and pedal board for your guitar input, add on plug ins for the digital audio workstation.
Probably use Ableton or Logic or Reaper for a DAW, stay away from FL Studio unless you're black.
Many amp simulator plug ins also have pedals included, and support midi foot switches to enable effects like a traditional pedalboard would.
All of this requires a computer to work, which I'm assuming you have access to, if not you can get a cheap laptop from amazon renewed for a few hundred bucks.
You don't need an amp and physical pedals until you are ready to jam with other musicians or play live, and even then a lot of the time you can rent them from your local music store for relatively cheap.
Learn the fundamentals of music theory and try to learn some songs before you start trying to make original music, learn what makes music good.

if the nut height is high guitar plays like shit even if you are low action at 12th. she understands the geometry of the instrument because she's Asian. she want's it to play comfortably on the low part of the neck since she serves as the rhythm guitarist in her rock band Crucial Taunt.

If you have a Mac, you already get a free mini-DAW in Garage Band. It's practically Logic-lite. Or if you have an iPhone, same thing (though not as robust).

she plays bass you dingaling

Funny story, true story, I was having brunch with none other than the John Cougar Mellencamp, bougie little place in the uptown neighborhoods by the hills, anyway we were having brunch, bottomless mimosas and eggs Benedict it was divine. Then in came a group of women and they all started point and giggling at our table, its kinda to be expected at this point but this just seemed excessive, they came over to our table though and they asked "Aren't you that guy who spams vocaroos in /gg/?" and they didn't even care that John Cougar Mellencamp was sitting there with me they just wanted my autograph on their tits which I had to decline because of religious reasons but was nonetheless flattered.

Digital

Nope

If I could explain to you the mountains, the sky, or a single raindrop would you say to me this is the answer that you seek? This knowledge is not a pebble you can grasp in your hand. It flows through you. It was here eons before and after you. Stars flash in and out of existence. A cold sweat envelopes you. Your heart is pumping. A little something will find its way.

he says he's willing to spend up to $1000, may as well get the authentic experience of having an amp in the room. there's no reason he couldn't use an amp and a daw.

I had forgot about this. so fucking stupid.

lmao

they went full roland
never go full roland

I don't think spending $500 on an amp, pedals, a microphone, microphone stand, and xlr cable will give you as good of a set up as running DI. This is obviously just my opinion but I think one would be better off waiting until they can afford a proper tube amplifier, which will come sooner if he only spends half his budget now.

a microphone, microphone stand, and xlr cable

I'm not suggesting he get all of that, he said he wanted an amp and a way to record and lay drums/bass over it. The amp is well worth it on it's own.

How is he going to record the amp without a microphone, a stand for it, and an xlr cable?

You have to have an amp to play electric guitar. I do all my recording with Amplitube or Bias FX
zoomers need to back off the idea of recording and learn to play first
an amp is mandatory to enjoy the instrument

Why would they do this. Holy shit. It's a fuzz. 4 transistor circuit. Why. Why would they make it this complicated. There is no reason whatsoever to have big muff presets. You can just twist knobs there are only three, and one is level.

i need to record!!

no you dont, you need to practice

You can do a more informed and focused practice if you can record yourself and listen to your own weaknesses, and reflect on progress over time.
Anon ASKED for a way to record and play along to drum tracks, which is going to be infinitely easier with a DI set up.
You can have fun using amp simulators, especially if it means you can get a good amp sooner because you didn't dump your budget on a BOSS Katana

My primary reason for wanting something to record is so i can l play something a rhythm section of a song and then play the lead over it. Or to emulate other instruments to play along with. Though I think for most of what i want to do starting out a looper pedal is probably all I need.

Buy pedals. Remember when you buy digital crap like plugins you dont actually own anything.

You can do a more informed and focused practice if you can record yourself and listen to your own weaknesses, and reflect on progress over time.

you can record your playing with your phone and listen back to it
all of this extra stuff is just more steps to justify not practicing

forget to pay my EHX subscription

fuzz no longer works

Yeah and you can wipe your ass with sandpaper. Why are you so adamant on making your life worse?

Why would I ever spend money on software?

Post your playing

With an amp that connects via USB. The Katana was already mentioned but there's also the Nextone, the Fender Champ II, the Mustang amps, and probably more. DAWs have their place but you don't need to be in front of a screen every time you play guitar.

But those amps are bad anon.

all of this extra stuff is just more steps to justify not practicing

i'm the poster asking for beginner advice and this is a really good point. I'm looking to keep things as simple as possible. But I also want to be able to simulate playing with other instruments and use effects to some extent.

theres backing tracks on yt for literally everything and you could get one of a bajillion practice amps with built in effects

Yamaha TH10II is pretty good, i dunno if theres a new version but the fact it has bluetooth so you can play backing tracks through it is neat. Thats the main problem i have with the Katana

Is there actually a way to play through headphones that actually uses the raw sound from the amp or is it all digital if I want to play with headphones?

Incorrect, they all fuck. Especially for a beginner. If you turn up your nose at amazing solid-states while pushing DAW plugins, you have no credibility.

and you could get one of a bajillion practice amps with built in effects

That's the problem with this sort of thing is there's so many options that it makes it hard for a retard like me to decide what to get.

bros how do i learn jazz, is it literally just memorising a fuckton of arpeggio's and scales? I can solo over a 2 5 1 with very basic triad's but thats about it.

Great job, Sam!

No bitch

spend $400 on a boss katana

upgrade to a real amp in 2 years

have to get an audio interface anyway

could have spent $200 on an audio interface and saved money to get an amp sooner

it's like you retards hate being efficient

that's fair but guitars made these days suck balls so you might as well buy used if you aren't going to go vintage

you're fucking retarded lol

sm57 stand and cable can be had for around $100.

boss katana is a real amp and has an inbuilt audio interface

woah

its a sound card you connect to your 'puter via usb and it has input and output port

Who's cooking the new thread?
Gretsch thread.

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doesn't look like a card to me. seems more like a box. you don't seem to know what you're talking about

maybe later if nobody else does it

this is used to connect instrument cables or microphone cables to a computer so you can either record direct input from your guitar or a microphone from your amp.

So it basically turns my computer into a digital guitar amp/pedals/ recording studio?

Sorry but mic'd amps aren't better than USB interfaces unless you got a proper recording space, can crank up the volume, and know how to mic the amp properly. A beginner doesn't have any need for amp mics yet.

precisely

an sm57 is $100 by itself.

nigger a guitar amp is loud as fuck and you mic it right up against the grille you don't need a proper recording space you only capture direct sound

buy used

Every time I tried to mic an amp it sounded like shit. Unless you have a good sounding room and you know how to mic it up to get it sounding good digital will always be better

waffling over 100 dollars

stop being poor

The initial query was for a beginner set up for playing along to drum and instrument tracks and recording under $1000

maybe you're just retarded bro it's the easiest thing in the world. you shine your phone light through the grille cloth, find the exact center of the speaker, line the mic up with it about 6 inches away. set the volume on your mic preamp so that peak levels are around -18db. that's it.

Yeah you got 0 clue how to properly mic an amp. Go watch any producer, sound engineer, even a player who's had real studio time and put out good records. An interface clears this hurdle entirely.

I mean if i get so good that i want to record direct from my amp then yeah i'd consider getting a mic'd set up or pay a studio but homie I can barely string together a chord progression.

also fyi i record my amp in my untreated bedroom it sounds awesome because the room isn't a factor in the recording at all, the direct sound from a loud ass amp that is close-miced with a shure sm57 is wayyyyy louder than any reflections from my bedroom walls.

my guess is you didn't have the right kind of mic or something else. if you use a dynamic mic like the shure it's pretty much just gonna get the direct sound.

i'm a recording engineer you stupid nigger

oh in that case all of this shit is meaningless, go practice you rubee

Piper? I hardly know ‘er!

A looper will take you far if you learn how to use it. The Boss RC-10R looper also has a built in drum machine.

truth nukes

Boss RC-10R

$365

So what amp is is he supposed to buy with this?

You aren't, at least not a good one then if you don't know what I'm talking about. The good engineers aren't fucking around on Anon Babble at 1am, they're busy being successful.

Cool picture, I already said you weren't a good one if you don't know what I'm talking about. Bet you can't tie one notable project to that gear.

you don't know what you're talking about retard micing an amp 6 inches away with an sm57 is literally the studio standard. professional studios keep the amps in isolation closets you basically don't need to worry about room sound at all.

and i have had all kinds of notable people on this mic lol i'm not gonna dox myself but i engineered a number 2 song

no proof he's ever used that "pro" gear for anything notable, assuming it's even his and not some stolen pic

Didn't think so, hope that works out for you then.

i'm actually going to expand further. professional artists are recording in sub-optimal spaces literally all the time. they travel with a mic, an interface, and a little reflection shield and record in hotel rooms, and then engineers clean it up with plugins. if you can buy an interface and a mic, you can record yourself and get it to sound good. and if you can't, the problem is you!

You need a program to run it. Focusrite should come with some free downloadable version of Ableton. Its a device, yes, that lets you record, turn your computer into a studio. But its not an effect or soundproducing device itself. For that you need additional plugins or, what I do, use a effect processor before it. Guitar > multieffect processor > Focusrite >> 1. Computer 2. Headphones
If you dont want to record you don't need the Focusrite and computer at all. Just use a multieffect processor with headphones.

i just got done recording

*no voca*

the more things change the more they stay the same
none of you faggots even actually play guitar do you

new, as requested

Bros I keep hearing people mention him. And by him I mean mountain man. I'm so juiced in it bros.

based sega genesis enjoyer

oh you're one of sam hydes wiggers. all opinions are discarded.

no i'm not we just linked up. i don't particularly care for sam hyde but most my other pics with rappers have me in them.

thanks lads

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cell phone or laptop built-in mics

ali has sm57 knockoffs @ $12

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