Who won the story?

Marilyn Manson's shock rock is merely a fashion statement for edgelords of long days gone by.

My Chemical Romance has withstood the test of time and transcended its generational boundaries in addition to retaining its audience it garnered all those decades ago.

Neither was "goth" in a strict sense, only peripherally.

I didn't know Gerard was gothy at all. He seems like a nice guy actually.

gothy

if you put it that way then he obviously is

You're just objectively wrong, Manson was able to create a sound that inspired many modern day artists, even his style and aesthetic is very unique and imitated by many till this day

Such as?

And muh inspiration has never counted for shit.

Pretty much every "goth" mumble rapper from the late 2010s era has copied Manson's sound and look, ghostmane is one for example

Neither was "goth"

Marilyn is goth as fuck

daily streams:

MCR 3.75m
The Cure 2.60m
MM 1.21m

Manson 6 ft 2
Gerard Way 5 ft 7

t. retard

real answer is Robert Smith

You two are both retards

5 ft 7

that's tall enough

Brian (lol): no kids
Gerard: at least 1 kid

Don't worry, he's gonna put some goth babies in this babe once he retires.

Gerard for sure

Now My Chemical Romance singer Gerard Way has told Rock Sound magazine in an interview, "If Elvis Costello said we sucked we would think about it a bit but usually it is comments from someone with a new record to promote so the remarks ring hollow". Way also continued, "We still haven't found someone that has knocked us down that we need to take seriously."

MCR has only released one truly bad album

I guess Gerard won, but Manson is way better. Mcr doesn't have anything that can touch Mechanical Animals

Manson is way better

most of his music is trash and his best album isn't anywhere near as good as Gerard's best
I Brought You My Bullets > Mechanical Animals

Objectively false

Neither are goth. Manson is only known for his image and has zero memorable songs or albums.

If that was true, Marilyn would not have worked with so many legendary musicians, people respect his skill because he's unique as fuck and capable of creating amazing music that cannot be duplicated. MCR are just a copy pasted version of other hard-core bands that were popular in the mid 2000s marketed towards awkward kids, they're the Disney of emo.

zero memorable songs

His cover of sweet dreams is one of the most used songs on YouTube and tiktok, and his version of this is Halloween gets played everywhere on Halloween, like what are you even talking about?

Fans of both are largely gay as shit.
Manson is talented though as well as a based rapist.
Emoboy is cringe personally and musically.

His cover

lol

Marilyn manson was "goth" the same way every guitar music band in the 00s was "emo" or "screamo"
Wasn't his sound more industrial and alternative than goth? When I think of goth, I think of a dreary take on post punk , not an edgelord. Mcr were pop punk and emo, not really goth either.
Lol, normies think anything with guitars is screamo and anything black is goth

Yep, his cover is more popular than the original, my boy made it his song lmfao

I'm biased to MCR. Three cheers and Black Parade are just solid rock records, black parade more than three cheers. Three cheers is what i brought you my bullets should have been but with better production and more post hardcore sound. Three cheers is heavier and more post hardcore than black parade.

Industrial is goth just like post punk is goth, otherwise you'll have to pretend that bands like Nine Inch Nails and Skinny Puppy weren't popular within the goth subculture of the 80s and early 90s, which is fucking retarded

groupies go back stage to meet Gerard

turns out he's a nerdy sperg

he draws them a dragon

Based

Not even close.

Okay, yes, industrial is related to post punk, but industrial isn't goth in the truest sense. Goth is its own thing, industrial is its own thing, you can't say nine inch nails sounds anything like siouxsie and the banshees or joy division. Come on now. Lets be real. Is there overlap? Sure. Goths might also be into industrial and industrial fans might be into goth, they might share a similar aesthetic but by the time marilyn manson came around, it was already its own sound to where there isn't much similarity. Marilyn isn't a "goth"

The subculture heavily embraced industrial bands like Skinny Puppy and Ministry,and later NIN and Marilyn Manson, just cause they're more modern doesn't mean they're not "true goth",music always evolves, so do subcultures.

Why you made you some valid arguments and points I can't refute; to the moon.

this
neither are truly his songs
that's not even true

muh inspiration

muh collabs, muh features

wow sounds like Marilyn Manson fans have every reason to like the guy except the quality of his music

MCR are just a copy pasted version of other hard-core bands

looks like it's make-shit-up-o'clock

Three cheers is what i brought you my bullets should have been

you're gay as fuck

Amongst non-gays you are likely correct.
However, faggots seem to love the Eurythmics.

Dude we get it, you like MCR because they're an LGBT band and you're part of the community. They have some good songs but let's not act like they started their own fucking genre or something, this shit is cringe as fuck

I would never choose that so no, you're wrong. I brought you my bullets had rougher song writer, it lacked good production, it was not their greatest effort. Some songs were great though but they were very much in their early stages of their career

The key word here is cover.